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14/1/2017 at 7:18pm
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I am thinking of getting one of these Kojak jacks, does anyone have any views on them good or bad or is there an alternative, am I right that if on a sloping pitch the jack can be used to level the van and left in place ? and whats the difference in a jack for a single axle or a twin axle

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14/1/2017 at 7:38pm
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I wouldn't use any jack unless the van was attached to the car. Doesn't take much movement forward or back to fall off the jack.

As a jack these are fine, as is thr alko side lift.


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As pointed out safest to jack attached to car. I use a £10 2 tonne bottle jack from Screwfix. goes under thick metal bit under axle. A Hydraulic jack will sink if left under caravan for a long while so not suitable on it's own for site levelling.


14/1/2017 at 8:29pm
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Agree with others above on safety.

I had a Kojack bottle jack but unfortunately it would periodically spew the oil out of the piston, shame as in every other aspect it was good and the brackets were superb, but I just couldn't trust it so it had to go. I don't use a jack for levelling just a board or (two if needed) and roll the van onto it.

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15/1/2017 at 12:57pm
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i have one but have never used it for leveling.. but it could be used for this and a board under the jack will solve any sinking problems..

they are useful easy to use things if ever needed.. but not essential.. the brackets (which you have to fit) makes them stand out from normal much cheaper bottle jacks..

trog


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15/1/2017 at 3:05pm
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I had a Kojak which was good for several years but it started to leak oil. I binned it.

Our van has the Al Ko jack as standard-but we have a 5 tonne bottle jack in the car.
At home I use a trolley jack if   I need one.


15/1/2017 at 6:05pm
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Not sink in the ground trog. The jack itself will drop after a while. In fact leaving a hydraulic jack raised will probably shorten it's life.


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not a lot of weight on it relatively speaking so i dont think it would sink that much or do it much it harm to be honest.. :)

trog

ps.. but i must admit to buying mine for maintenance and a possible road side puncture.. definitely easier to fit the jack into the mounts and lift a van than any other method..



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16/1/2017 at 4:51pm
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A bit of a mixed reaction on this im not sure now what I should do, I thought they were a levelling device and I assumed this would be easier than using ramps or wood etc but may be not

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ramps or wood is easier to level with.. as i said earlier i bought a kojack but i have never used it for leveling.. :)

the only advantage i could see with leveling is if the van could not be pulled onto wood or ramps with a mover or car..

i still think they are worth buying though.. handy things to have but not essential..

trog


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18/1/2017 at 1:26pm
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Quote: and whats the difference in a jack for a single axle or a twin axle



Whatever your axle set up, then you should consider the Lock n Level device. This fulfils various caravanner requirements such as levelling, as a jack for wheel changing, as a jack to fit a second (Alko) wheel lock. Its also safer in use than applying a other jacks to the (hopefully) correct chassis location.

I also found that the redundant Alko jacking brackets plus Alko jack exceeded the weight of the LnL, so its a win all round.


18/1/2017 at 3:21pm
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The Kojak light is a jacking system for doing wheel changes it is not suitable as a levelling device, Purpleline who make the Kojak do a leveller which goes under one wheel of the van/trailer and then can be raised. This lifts the wheel and therefore cannot be used for changing a wheel.

Most jacking systems are for temporary lifts only and should never be used if the van is in use or you intend to go under it, the kojak and the Alko system should only ever be used with the trailer/van attached to the car other wise there is a very real risk of the van pivoting round and dropping off the jack.


18/1/2017 at 9:16pm
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Old Bob thanks for your response the Kojak Lite actually has small spirit levels fitted to it for the purpose of levelling the caravan, it is also advertised as a jack and leveller or have I misunderstood what ive read.

Chrisn7 the lock n level device you mentioned sounds intresting who makes it please.

It is possible im looking at the wrong product here, may be this isn't suitable for me, what I wanted was something to level the van instead of ramps or blocks of wood that was simple and quick to use, as my caravan does not come with a spirit level fitted on the A frame I use a 6" level and I rest it on the bottom awning rail I liked the look and sound of the kojak as it had the levels built in

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19/1/2017 at 12:39am
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Website here. Its a well regarded product.

http://www.locknlevel.co.uk/

The material used in its construction appears very similar to that used in air suspension systems on various makes of 4x4, so pretty tough.


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Quote: Originally posted by Old Bob on 18/1/2017
The Kojak light is a jacking system for doing wheel changes it is not suitable as a levelling device, Purpleline who make the Kojak do a leveller which goes under one wheel of the van/trailer and then can be raised. This lifts the wheel and therefore cannot be used for changing a wheel.

Most jacking systems are for temporary lifts only and should never be used if the van is in use or you intend to go under it, the kojak and the Alko system should only ever be used with the trailer/van attached to the car other wise there is a very real risk of the van pivoting round and dropping off the jack.



http://www.purpleline.co.uk/all-products/kojack

Same product it does both jobs.
Am not saying it is the bee all and end all. but it works, I know I use it.

Kojack lite, serves very well as a jack and does the job levelling, just use a board under the jack, and as you should do anyway with the steadies keep an eye on it. Simples. I also have ramps, but this is so much easier.
As for the jack taking all the weight? It is designed to do it.
Personally I slide my ramps under the wheel and tap them in. Bit like belt and braces. Just hate all the faffing around with up ramp down ramp till level.
Each to their own.
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19/1/2017 at 6:32am
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Quote: Originally posted by richardandjo2010 on 18/1/2017
Old Bob thanks for your response the Kojak Lite actually has small spirit levels fitted to it for the purpose of levelling the caravan, it is also advertised as a jack and leveller or have I misunderstood what ive read.

Chrisn7 the lock n level device you mentioned sounds intresting who makes it please.

It is possible im looking at the wrong product here, may be this isn't suitable for me, what I wanted was something to level the van instead of ramps or blocks of wood that was simple and quick to use, as my caravan does not come with a spirit level fitted on the A frame I use a 6" level and I rest it on the bottom awning rail I liked the look and sound of the kojak as it had the levels built in



No you did not misunderstand mate.



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