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Crypto

09/6/2017 at 5:58pm
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At Milton Keynes site for a week. 3 days in been told that I can't have a standard ground sheet in my awning. "It's a national policy sir"
I did not find any mention of this policy when I booked the site otherwise I would have brought the much heavier and disliked ground sheet that I have.
I can't t find out if this is indeed the current policy or just the local bloke not wanting to repair the pitch as the customer service is closed at the moment. Any others come across this?

Ray Clayton

09/6/2017 at 6:42pm
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Hi

Can only find the below on the club site.
And to be honest, it was under the tent section.

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Normally your tent or the inner tent or tents will be supplied with a sewn-in or separate groundsheet. Camping stores sell all kinds of groundsheets separately too.

Worth considering are the kind that let the light and air through to give the grass a chance to breathe. They aren’t waterproof of course so you wouldn’t want them in a sleeping area, but they can be useful in living areas, porches or in awnings on trailer tents or folding campers.

Groundsheets: Keep it clean – on polythene

Builders' merchants and big DIY warehouses sell rolls of inexpensive polythene sheeting in various widths and thicknesses. You can buy it by the metre and it makes a great base for laying out your tent before you pitch it.

If the ground is excessively muddy, you could use the polythene sheet as a second layer under your normal groundsheet to keep your tent clean, though be careful not to leave any sticking out because it’s very slippery when wet. We wouldn't recommend doing this for a prolonged period however due to the long term damage this can do to the grass underneath. Otherwise, it’s useful to have it available at the end of your holiday to lay out the whole tent to make it easier to pack it away neatly.

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Ray

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Ray Clayton

09/6/2017 at 6:45pm
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Pitching rules

No mention of ground sheets.

5. PITCHING

5.1 - On arrival you may chose a pitch from those remaining of the type you have booked. The Holiday Site team will do their best to accommodate any preferences; but we cannot guarantee these due to management and safety issues.

5.2 - Our Holiday Site team will show you to your pitch and answer any queries you may have.

5.3 - In terms of your pitch, please note:-

5.3.1 - for your safety, we have a "six metre rule" which means that units (excluding guy ropes) must be 6 metres apart from adjacent units in order to protect against fire;

5.3.2 - the unit (along with any ancillary equipment) must fit within the confines of your pitch whilst maintaining the 6 metre rule. If this cannot be achieved you may need to purchase an additional pitch (if available) or remove the ancillary equipment;

5.3.3 - toilet tents may only be erected within the confines of the pitch; and

5.3.4 - all loose equipment needs to be stored within the confines of your unit.

5.4 - You must ensure the mains electrical cable from the hook up point to your unit and the unit's installation are safe. All units should be protected by a residual current device (RCD). For tent campers, this should be incorporated into a purpose made mains supply unit designed for tent camping conditions.

5.5 - You may park your vehicle(s) between units, provided that 3m clear space is left within the 6m gap. Vehicles on site should be parked at right angles to a slope where possible.

5.6 - The transfer or sub-letting of pitches is not allowed without the holiday site team's approval.

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Some campsites insist that 'breathable' groundsheets are used in caravan awnings to protect the grass. I have never understood the reasoning behind this because an awning prevents the sun getting to the grass anyway so it will go yellow after several days no matter what groundsheet is used.

Also, most tents these days have sewn in groundsheets so they obviously can't be restricted so again I can't understand the logic behind it.

If campsites rotated pitches leaving at least one or two to recover after a long stay there wouldn't be too much of a problem. On unmarked pitches they could also rotate the position of the tent or caravan on each pitch giving the area used by a previous camper time to recover. It is all down to good management.

However, many campsites fill the sites to capacity as often as they possibly can and the grass simply doesn't have chance to recover. They insist on having the units positioned in exactly the same position as the last camper with the car on a certain side (the car usually gets better plush grass than the unit!). I used to be a member of the C&CC and one reason why I left was because the pitches on the campsites I went to in the first year were absolutely awful...mostly just hard mud patches, tree roots sticking through etc. They would have been ok for wheeled vehicles but no good for tents with groundsheets that might become damaged.

But of course if they go for money over good maintenance management they can always blame the camper for causing rough pitches. I very much doubt breathable groundsheets or even no groundsheet at all makes much difference inside an awning. You can't grow a lawn inside with no sun!

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navver

09/6/2017 at 8:01pm
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We used to have a breathable awning carpet and it was brilliant. It was warm and soft to stand on in bare feet. The grass under it was in perfect condition when we left. All nice and green, although small places where a table or chair leg or the steps had been were yellowed.

Yes it got a bit mucky underneath sometimes but was very easy to wash in the washing machine when we got home.

On sites without this rule I get rather frustrated because we no longer use an awning and have a big muddy patch right by the door. Not nice aft all. All awning ground sheets should be breathable in my view.

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09/6/2017 at 10:29pm
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Used to use a breathable groundsheet in our awning, but after a couple of particularly wet holidays the surface water did not drain very quickly and we were part plodging around the awning for the best part of the holidays. Not pleasant especially when it was so wet outside we did expect a bit of dry comfort on return to our unit. On packing up the pitch was completely bare and covered in mud. Since then we reverted to the normal solid type groundsheet, again suffering wet holidays with the exception that the interior of the awning stayed much drier and comfortable. Packing up left the ground in better condition than when using breathable ground covering. Some bareness where heavy foot traffic took place but plenty areas had untouched if slightly yellow grass. Now very sceptical about breathable groundsheet rules.

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