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PersonAij615
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Guys, what are these wheel security devices that are catching my eyes, think there called AL-CO - like a red triangular shaped this fits in between the allot and then sits at back of break pad I believe ???

Are they new and any good ?


PersonGrampian91
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AL-KO is a company that make the chassis for caravans etc.

They have a wheel clamp that locks through a wheel to the actual chassis, its called an AL-KO Secure.

Are they new? Not really they have been out for a fair few years now.

Caravans dont have brake pads that have drums and shoes.


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Personnavver
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Probably the best wheel clamp there is but still not totally unbeatable.

You get the lozenge as they call the red triangle and a bot goes through that into a screw thread in the wheel hub. The bolt has a head which a security bolt fits into which allows you to tighten it into place. The security bot is then removed and kept in a safe place.

There is a lock which goes over the first bolt head and the key gores into a safe place.

They will slow a thief down and they will probably make a lot of noise removing it and hopefully will damage the hub so much it can't be towed.

Difficult to fit though because the wheel has to be aligned perfectly with the threaded hole in the hub. Tricky on a twin axle but not too bad on a single.

The caravan must have a hub with he threaded hole, known as the receive, in place. It cannot be fitted to an old van without this.

The lozenge is also particular to the caravan wheel shape, there are several shapes available.


They are about £220 to buy


PersonJohn4703
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I use a Milenco Compact which seems secure, (well as secure as any anti-theft device). The wheel does not need to be exactly in the right place and it costs £84.99.

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AL-KO link.

Various videos on youtube on how they work.

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Personchrisn7
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If you are thinking of buying, be warned that the ALKO wheel locks are specific to the wheel style they are fitted to, so you need to determine this first.


PersonAlphonso De Lard
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It took Green Flag roughly three hours to angle grind mine off... So not unbeatable, but noisy and time consuming to remove...

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I use the Nemesis Wheel Lock, very similar to the ALKO one except that you don't need to line up the wheel perfectly.

you basically set your caravan up as normal, and then attached the wheel lock to the receiver wheel nut and the bar goes through the wheel. If the caravan moves forward the bar will hit the chassis and stop the caravan.

Is it perfect? probably not, but all of these security features are purely there to stop the "chancer" thief who spots a caravan without security and risks nicking it. None of these security features will stop a gang of professional thieves, they will get through pretty much anything on the market relatively quickly.

In fact I personally think the best security is other caravans, if you store your van in a proper storage site there will be hundreds of vans to choose from, reduces the chance of your being stolen.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Purpleline-Nemesis-Ultra-Security-Caravan/dp/B008V9MHQM/r........


PersonMick S.
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The best anti theft action has to be removing a wheel! This stops 100% of chancers in their tracks.

No, ive never done it. But if i had to leave the van somewhere that i had serious concerns, or for an extended period (seasonal/storage) i probably would.

I am also surprised there is no type of 'leg lock' on the market. Try dragging a van with all 4 legs scraping the tarmac!


Personbrianconwy
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There also used to be a bulldog clamp before Alko won their patent battle. Taking a wheel off seems a positive way and this JSB hub lock seems the most secure way of all. Couldn't be bothered myself but their pictures show a pair of alko locks forcibly removed.

http://www.jsbhublock.co.uk/


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PersonGrampian91
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Quote: Originally posted by Mick S. on 01/9/2017
The best anti theft action has to be removing a wheel! This stops 100% of chancers in their tracks.

No, ive never done it. But if i had to leave the van somewhere that i had serious concerns, or for an extended period (seasonal/storage) i probably would.

I am also surprised there is no type of 'leg lock' on the market. Try dragging a van with all 4 legs scraping the tarmac!


There are leg locks available. They are mostly useless though. Defeated by a pair of pliers.


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Milenco do 2 types of steady locks. One fits over the winding nut, the other fits in the tube (where fitted) to the winder.

I don't see either of these being removed with pliers though.


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We've got the Alko Wheel Lock which relies on the two parts aligning perfectly centrally which can be difficult. Daughter has a purple line which I think is far better.

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Quote: Originally posted by chrisn7 on 03/9/2017
Milenco do 2 types of steady locks. One fits over the winding nut, the other fits in the tube (where fitted) to the winder.

I don't see either of these being removed with pliers though.


You dont need to remove them.


Personnavver
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When you fit the Alko wheel lock, line up the wheel roughly then apply the hand brake with only one click.

Then you will find you can rotate the wheel quite easily just by putting both hands on it and turning it. Try it, it's easy but only one click on the hand brake mind.


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Quote: Originally posted by Grampian91 on 03/9/2017
Quote: Originally posted by chrisn7 on 03/9/2017
Milenco do 2 types of steady locks. One fits over the winding nut, the other fits in the tube (where fitted) to the winder.

I don't see either of these being removed with pliers though.


You dont need to remove them.


? that - in both cases mine cover the winding nut, and the fronts require an adapter to turn the winder...



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