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24/10/2017 at 7:44pm
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Maybe caravan manufacturers should produce caravans that are just a box on wheels.
The number of posts I read on here "we don't/won't use heating/hot water/aquaroll water/toilet/shower/gas/electric/etc"


24/10/2017 at 7:50pm
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And diy fit it out to what the owner wants.
Could catch on Andy



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24/10/2017 at 8:00pm
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If it was completely empty then the buyer could even design their own layout and furniture style


24/10/2017 at 8:08pm
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Tbf it's how some bottom of range caravans from the continental makes are marketed. Not completely empty but with just basic equipment & a long list of factory options that can be specified at time of ordering so you pay for just the caravan you want without the bits you will never use.

There have been threads on here over the yrs asking why UK makes don't offer that but presumably they do their market research & demand is not there in the UK.


24/10/2017 at 8:34pm
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I would buy one. Be a great project. I would have one like the Roma Gt.


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24/10/2017 at 9:26pm
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Great, but will they be able to make that box watertight!

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25/10/2017 at 4:28pm
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I don't think they would be able to do that anyway as they apply the skylights and window positions in relation to the layout not to mention the TV roof aerial. Some caravans are absent of a rear window, especially the fixed bed models and those on the sides differ in each model so a basic box on wheels wouldn't be practical.







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25/10/2017 at 4:37pm
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Simple solution is to buy a continental caravan as they as not as plush as UK caravans.


25/10/2017 at 5:23pm
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You are joking of course with that comment.

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25/10/2017 at 6:01pm
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As pointed out in my earlier post. If you just want a box to sleep in you won't get an empty box but you will get the type of smaller lower spec caravan that UK makes do not list. Kip Shelter, Kip Kompakt, Weinsberg, Tab & so on. The continental makes have huge ranges from basic spec up to super luxury. Something for everybody.

It depends how you do your caravanning. I only go down to France in the summer so I don't need heater, water heater only a bed & a cooker so I could get one of those low spec things but they still cost more than I think is worth paying so I just go for '95 Abbey 2berth, grand off eBay & drizabone.

I don't need a home on wheels just a box to sleep in but there are much cheaper options than a new low spec 'van that still costs £9k or more & I ain't got to fart about taking it back for warranty work every 5mins. Probably plenty more who think cost effectively & can use hand tools hence the CoC thread.

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25/10/2017 at 6:57pm
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Perhaps the reason they won't produce just a box on wheels is because it just does not make economic sense in their manufacturing process.
The manufacturers simply build a model which fits into the market in which they are aiming to maximize sales. Mass production does not favor flexibility.
By way of an illustration (yes I know it is not a caravan) one of my sons never wanted gherkins on his Big Mac, easy you would think just don't put them on when you assemble it! No it never worked like that, we would stand about for ages and nobody seemed to grasp the idea. The only solution? Buy the standard one and remove gherkins.
Ever looked at the formulas available to you on computer spreadsheets? Much cheaper to just have them all on there and the end user just does not use them.


25/10/2017 at 7:58pm
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There is also the issue of the weight, caravans are designed for stability also.

You will get someone that wants everything at the back of a very long van and just a few seats and a lot of empty space at the front making it very tail heavy.

A lot more goes into the designs than most people imagine.

Probably all done on computers these days, but testing various designs and layouts on a track, sometimes exceeding 100mph.

The caravan racing of the 1970's helped with a lot with designs.

Not demolition but proper racing.


26/10/2017 at 1:50pm
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Its not a completely impractical idea. Years ago there was the Marauder caravan and a stable mate whose name I forget, that were produced as very basic vans, that could be upgraded later as the owners funds permitted. For example you got a hob, but no oven having a cupboard instead that could take an oven later if wished. Ditto a fridge, and so on.

Trouble is of course it takes weeks and weeks to get parts, so customers would soon be put off the idea.


26/10/2017 at 3:15pm
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I'd have thought it should be possible to have some sort of modular system which factored in keeping the van balanced. Whether if would be commercially viable I've no idea.

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26/10/2017 at 5:10pm
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Box van trailer?


26/10/2017 at 5:44pm
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Think Ikea is missing a trick here, flat pack caravans anyone



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