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31/5/2018 at 12:52pm
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Hi we’ve a Nissan Juke 1.6 DCI and I have read we can only tow a caravan under 1250kg.

We are new to caravaning.

We are looking for a 4 berth caravan with double bed lay out. Does anyone have any advice on which caravan models to look at ?

Getting bamboozled by the search and would love a few recommendations. Hopefully second hand, models. Price not too crazy but below 12k if poss.

Thanks in advance


31/5/2018 at 2:49pm
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Have you checked that your particular vehicle is type approved for towing? I believe some of the sporty versions may not have been type approved so you would be unable to tow anything at all. Check the V5 and the weight plate on the car to see if any weight is shown for towing.

The recommendation for novices is that the trailer/caravan max weight (MTPLM) should not exceed 85% of the kerbweight of the car. I can't find a listing for a 1.6 diesel Juke but most of the Juke models hava a kerbweight around 1250 to 1300 kg so you should be looking at caravans with an MTPLM of around 1100kg.

Have a look at ranges such as the Bailey Ranger which may have a model that is suitable, other manufacturers such as Lunar also make lightweight caravans. Caravans have got heavier over the years due to the amount of equipment fitted to them so if you look at caravans about 10 years old you are more likely to find a model of suitable weight.

Rob


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31/5/2018 at 6:58pm
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Thanks very much for your advice Rob. I’ll take a look at your suggestions !thanks Lyndsay


31/5/2018 at 7:15pm
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Hello Lyndsay.

Perhaps you could consider the following? :-

Adria Fleetwood Sonata Symphony

Also consider Nocturne and Melody

Baily Orion 430

Regards James

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31/5/2018 at 8:13pm
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Presumably by double bed layout you mean fixed bed. For 2 people these are fine but if you have children it means you must all go to bed at the same time unless you move out into the awning.

Also, lighter fixed beds tend to have rather cramped sitting space. The bed tends to dominate the interior with its size.

Bailey made the Ranger 460/4 which is well within and later the Orion and Pursuit. There was also a Sprite Alpine 4 similar to the Bailey 460/4.


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31/5/2018 at 8:17pm
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Hi guys so we are a family of 3, our daughter is 4.
So would you recommend the non fixed bed layout ?
Thanks for the tips keep them coming,
We intend to travel to France and Germany in it not just Uk.
I’m tempted to upgrade my car 😳 if needed?
thanks Lyndsay


31/5/2018 at 8:39pm
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We have a Bailey Ranger 460/4 ours is 2008 series 5. fully loaded weighs 1184kg, comes with fixed bed and all usual fitted equipment,you never said what your budget is but you can get one of these for around 5k. we have 2 teenage daughters and we find theres plenty of room for longer stays we do put the awning up

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01/6/2018 at 2:23pm
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This is just my opinion, but with your young children I wouldn't touch a 4-berth fixed bed with the proverbial barge pole. They sell themselves as 4-berths because the front seats can be made up into a double bed, but - leaving aside the fact that as a child, I would have happily murdered my younger sister before having to share a double bed with her - it means that after you have put the kids to bed, there is nothing you can do except go to bed yourselves also. The fixed beds in most caravans are way, way smaller than domestic double beds and Rose and I, who are used to a king size bed at home (and admittedly, neither of us are exactly small) couldn't hope to sleep comfortably on one.

Look instead for a van with bunk beds (either fixed or with a small dinette area that can be made into them) and a large lounge area at the front and you'll have plenty of space to relax in the evenings. Making the seats up into a double bed really isn't that hard. Buy yourself a good quality mattress topper (£100 at most) and you'll have a large comfortable bed for the night.

The other point to make is that you'll be asking a lot of a small car with a 1.6 diesel to cope with the extra 1200kg or so of caravan for long distances across France and Germany. The manufacturer's towing limit is the MAXIMUM your car can legally tow, is determined using trailers and not high-sided caravans and is based more on what it can move from a standing hill start than what will be comfortable at motorway speeds. Put simply, it will feel underpowered.

If you can upgrade to either a large estate car with a 2.0 diesel offering 140/150bhp or so (we've towed to Switzerland and around Ireland using a VW Passat and it's brilliant) or small SUV such as Tiguan or Kuga if that's your preference, it will tow far more comfortably, will easily cope with weights of up to about 1400kg and legally tow a lot more.

Sorry that I've given you the answer that is going to cost the most money, but isn't that always the way ... ?!

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01/6/2018 at 7:52pm
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Xplore 304 is an option with bunk beds and not a lot of space wasted on a shower area.

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04/6/2018 at 10:18pm
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Try one like this / only 905kg
https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/adria-altea-432-px-lightweight-caravan-4-berth/1301312387?utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios&utm_medium=social&utm_source=ios_social


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05/6/2018 at 1:04pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Rainbowsend on 01/6/2018
Xplore 304 is an option with bunk beds and not a lot of space wasted on a shower area.



I've got the 304 and love it, admittedly I'm single and therefore haven't tried using it with a family, but I could see how it would work.

There is the front seating are that turns into a double bed and a smaller seating are at the side of the van with a small table that folds down into a shorter single with a bunk-bed above. Once these have been made up you can then slide a curtain across that gives you a little privacy at the front.

The awning I have also can have an annex attached that would give you a bit more space once the kids grow up a little.

I tow it with a Citroen C4 1.6 and although it does struggle on the steeper hills (you need to drop down the gears) on the flat and shallow hills its fine.



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