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PersonBob61
21/7/2018 at 10:31pm
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Moral of this story? Get a tent...the police are not interested in tents


Personsaxo1
21/7/2018 at 10:54pm
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"As for having a spare wheel for a caravan, why not? When we towed we always carried one - at least we could do something about the problem. It's not that much more weight."
My caravan spare wheel weighs 23Kg,hardly insignificant!
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PersonBob61
22/7/2018 at 9:19am
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Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 21/7/2018
"As for having a spare wheel for a caravan, why not? When we towed we always carried one - at least we could do something about the problem. It's not that much more weight."
My caravan spare wheel weighs 23Kg,hardly insignificant!
saxo1


When I had a little two berth caravan it didn't come with a spare wheel or anywhere to store one. I had thought about buying one but I would then have to get a cradle for it fitted to the bottom of the caravan and it all added up to a heck of a lot of expense. I didn't have a jack capable of lifting the caravan either...or anywhere to store one.

Needless to say I worried myself silly when towing that something would go wrong, a puncture etc; on a narrow lane or a motorway and that was partly the reason I went back to tents again...not that I am much better off now because my Micra's spare is not much thicker than a bicycle wheel and it would worry me silly having to drive on that


PersonThe 2 Tops
22/7/2018 at 1:35pm
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I remember being pitched next to an Avondale caravan. This had a separately carpeted lift up trapdoor in the caravan floor. Much better than the standard Al-ko underslung carrier. I have found this hard to pull out, extraction can be prevented by a high verge, and decidedly dangerous when on a mainland Europe road, when pulling it out would be on the offside.
I did have an Elddis where the spare was located in the front locker, but it put the nose weight over my tow ball allowance, so it had to ride in the van and above the axle whilst towing.
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PersonRay Clayton
22/7/2018 at 2:56pm
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Unsafe Caravans!!!!
More than likey the wrong towing car half the time as well.
Mabe they should pull them over a bit more, because you see some right outfits out there, and give them a wide berth when you do.






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Personnavver
22/7/2018 at 7:59pm
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I understood you are legally required to have a spare wheel if you tow a trailer or is a caravan not a trailer.


PersonJohn4703
22/7/2018 at 8:12pm
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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 22/7/2018
I understood you are legally required to have a spare wheel if you tow a trailer or is a caravan not a trailer.

Many trailers do not have a spare wheel, and that includes some HGVs who do not carry a spare.
My small trailer that I use for transporting goods like sand, soil etc did not come with a spare.


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We camped for years. In 2019 we bought an Elddis Avante 454. We like it as it is short (6.9m) and fits in our driveway and has a fixed bed.
We had 127 nights away in the caravan in 2023.


Personsaxo1
22/7/2018 at 8:33pm
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I think Navver is referring to the towing vehicle,but if he is I don't think it is law.
saxo1


PersonLlaniDavis
22/7/2018 at 9:49pm
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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 22/7/2018
I understood you are legally required to have a spare wheel if you tow a trailer or is a caravan not a trailer.


There is no such legislation, both for the "trailer" or the towing vehicle.

AND NOW BACK TO THE TRUE STORY, HERE IN WALES.

Yesterday and today are the main days for people to arrive at Llanelwydd for the Royal Welsh Show, so there have been many caravans on the way there, especially to the Young Persons Village, where "decorated" caravans are in-vogue.

Dyfed Powys Police along with DVSA vehicle inspectors have been stopping lots of units, especially if they looked "dodgy" on the approachs to the Show. I understand that many have been issued with Rectification Notices and in some cases condemned. Faults have varied from worn tyres (Points and Fixed Penalty Notices issued), ineffective brakes, no working lights, even to insucure bodywork. It is going to be expensive for some people!



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PersonJohn4703
22/7/2018 at 9:54pm
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Quote: Originally posted by LlaniDavis on 22/7/2018
There is no such legislation.

That is my understanding. Logically if it was in legislation as soon as you had a puncture and put on the spare wheel it would be illegal to drive as you would no longer have a spare.

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We had 127 nights away in the caravan in 2023.


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PersonSamP
22/7/2018 at 11:10pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 21/7/2018
Moral of this story? Get a tent...the police are not interested in tents


You're wrong there.

You can be charged with loitering within tent.



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PersonMucker1884
23/7/2018 at 5:44am
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Quote: Originally posted by SamP on 22/7/2018
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 21/7/2018
Moral of this story? Get a tent...the police are not interested in tents


You're wrong there.

You can be charged with loitering within tent.






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23/7/2018 at 9:31am
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Quote: Originally posted by SamP on 22/7/2018
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 21/7/2018
Moral of this story? Get a tent...the police are not interested in tents


You're wrong there.

You can be charged with loitering within tent.



LOL - on a more serious note, I wonder how many cars are overweight when loaded with all the camping gear...especially all the stuff Mucker takes?


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We must make allowances, the author was probably Welsh.

Any trailer has to be in a road worthy condition so no real shock horror here.

It does underline how dangerous is the internet. Uninformed statements get shared around until they become accepted wisdom.

Try this one
"Any bank note, bearing the Queen,s head, should immediately be sent to Stuart Thomas"
Please share this with your friends as it is vitally important.



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