Hi. We need 2 new tyres on our caravan. Should we be looking at any particular make and model? The tyre fitting place says they will order them in and they usually go for a standard van tyre which is £52 plus VAT.
What do you recommend please? It is a Bailey Olympus 525 pulled by a Freelander 2.
Thankyou!
Em
Just check the age of the tyres before fitting. Its written on tyre wall. Should be able to get 2018 or 2017. As they say you should replace when tyres are 5 yrs old, you don't want to go later than last yrs date...IMO
Because they have to order the caravan tyres they have no control over what they receive so what you have to beware of is being charged for brand new tyres only to find out afterwards that they are over a year old since manufacture. They don't offer any discount and it's a dark area where the trading standards are concerned so theortically you maybe getting tyres that have to be replaced in 3 years instead of 5. I got caught out this way and knew nothing till I had the van serviced only to be told that I had 3 years left when they had only been renewed a few weeks earlier. However, I used E-Tyres last time as they promise not to fit caravan tyres over 6 months old but they only operate in certain areas but because you have no location in your profile I can't advise any further.
If you phone them up they will give a selection of caravan tyres to choose from whatever your budget is.
Its not date of manufacture that is necessarily the issue, but the date they were put in service, which is ok if you changed them last time, but not if you bought the van second hand, and the history is unknown
New tyres stored in dark cool conditions will be perfectly ok whether one or two years old
It isn't mandatory to change tyres at 5 years old it is only a recommendation.Provided they are checked at 5 years and are serviceable the recommendation is to change them at 7 years irrespective of condition.
saxo1
Quote: Originally posted by gailbonney on 06/8/2018
Just check the age of the tyres before fitting. Its written on tyre wall. Should be able to get 2018 or 2017. As they say you should replace when tyres are 5 yrs old, you don't want to go later than last yrs date...IMO
they do say this but personally i thinks its total rubbish backed up by no evidence at all..
Quote: Originally posted by gailbonney on 06/8/2018
Just check the age of the tyres before fitting. Its written on tyre wall. Should be able to get 2018 or 2017. As they say you should replace when tyres are 5 yrs old, you don't want to go later than last yrs date...IMO
they do say this but personally i thinks its total rubbish backed up by no evidence at all..
trog
I totally agree but it's all down to the insurance company holding the ace card really because if the tyres on the caravan are over 5 years old at the time of any claim then they have the legal right to refuse to pay out on those grounds. You could appeal but then it's a load of hassle going down the legal route so it's just easier to change the tyres when the 5 years date expires.
Where does it say on an insurance policy that tyres must not be more than 5 years old?
Unless it is stated in the terms and conditions of the policy they have no legal right to refuse a claim.
All my policy states is that the caravan must be roadworthy.
I can't find anywhere that states tyres more than 5 years old are un-roadworthy,in fact the advice given is that provided the tyres are inspected annually then they don't need changing till 7 years old.
saxo1
Re tyre age, they are apparently allowed to sell tyres upto 5 years after the date of manufacture (for car tyres anyway, I would iamgine the same for van tyres etc).
Though I imagine they won't be anywehre this age (probably upto a couple of years), it'd be poor stock control on someones part. But tyres will be stored inthe dark, in good conditions, they will be fine for a few years
It's age after fitting, not manufacture that matters.
FWIW, I recently had new tyres on our folding camper, fitted by Tyres on the Drive, they were manufactured 2517 (mid june 2017).
Proper storage of tyres prior to being sold should result in no deterioration by the time they are fitted. The caveat is whether we believe the care in storage to have been applied.
Insurers do not have to include everything in their T&C - they can apply accepted practices in deciding whether or not to accept liability.
It depends on what is meant by "inspected annually". Tyre damage can start from the inside of the tyre out, so they can be visually in good condition, but factually unfit for use.
I renewed my caravan tyres at six years old (sixth service). Visually they were in as new condition. Tyre failure can have catastrophic results, so pushing the boundaries is not advisable.
Bertie.
Insurers are obliged to include in their terms and conditions any condition that may make a policy void.
They can't use "acceptable practice" as a reason as it would need to be included in the terms, there is no definite definition only guidance issued by various bodies who themselves have different interpretations as to the life of a tyre.
For an insurer to void a policy in the event of an accident they would need to prove that the age of the tyre was in some way a contributing factor.
What is acceptable practice? Tyre dealers sell tyres of varying ages and it is considered acceptable that provided that they have been stored correctly tyres upto 5 years old may be sold.
An insurer could void a policy on the grounds of non compliance with acceptable practice if the caravan hadn't been serviced annually as that could be considered acceptable practice.Some insurers include that in the terms and conditions and is written down so that the insured is aware of the requirement.
For an insurer to include the condition that tyres must be changed when 5 years old they would need to include a condition that tyres are inspected and maintained as per NCC guidance.
saxo1
Agree in principle, but phrases such as, "providing the * has been maintained to a recognised standard", and other such phrases along similar lines, then these connotations can carry an enormous amount of weight when used in a court of law.
When I have a tow bar fitted, and am seeking a quote from an insurer, I always mention the tow bar. She insurers say straight out that this does not constitute a modification, but I still emphasise the point. Having read frequent articles in a motoring forum, where an insurer has rejected liability on some apparent minor issue, I take the view that it is best not to create any loophole that might end up causing me trouble.
Bertie.