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16/10/2018 at 11:54am
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16/10/2018 at 12:06pm
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"Foreign plates" according to other sources.
It also states that the crash happened 5miles from the likely/assumed entry point.
The video shows it travelling in our lane 3, so he/she appears to be keeping left, at least!

Local or foreign, it beggars belief how anyone of sound mind and body can drive for so far, against the flow of what appears to be considerably heavy traffic!

Reports of air ambulance involved, but no mention of casualties at time of posting. Let's hope everyone escaped relatively unharmed!

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16/10/2018 at 12:10pm
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In the sun (ok I know) they say it was carrying foreign number plates and the driver and passenger and the driver that it hit were all killed sadly the offending driver in his eighties

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16/10/2018 at 12:13pm
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"Three people have died after a car towing a caravan crashed into two cars while driving the wrong way on the M40.

The Subaru Forester was travelling south on the northbound carriageway when it hit a Ford Mondeo and a Ford Focus at about 16:00 BST on Monday.

The driver and passenger, both in their 80s, and the driver of the Ford Mondeo who was in his 30s, died in the accident.

The carriageway was closed overnight but has since reopened.

Sgt Beth Walton, from Thames Valley Police, said: "We are in the early stages of the investigation, in which sadly three people died and our thoughts are with their families.

"We are in the process of contacting witnesses who provided a report to us and are grateful for their support."

trog

ps.. an elderly couple in the van and the unlucky bugger who hit them..


16/10/2018 at 12:43pm
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It is difficult to believe that the driver of the tow car, and his passenger, would not quickly realise they were driving at oncoming traffic. Should they not have noticed the southbound traffic on their left, just the other side of the steel barrier in the central reservation?
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16/10/2018 at 1:18pm
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i think they must have realized their mistake pretty quickly just panicked and hadnt a clue what to do about it.. their age probably played a part..

trog


16/10/2018 at 4:09pm
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Quote: Originally posted by trog100 on 16/10/2018
i think they must have realized their mistake pretty quickly just panicked and hadnt a clue what to do about it.. their age probably played a part..

trog


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16/10/2018 at 8:08pm
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Presumably they entered the motorway by coming down (up?) an exit slip road - and then crossed TWO lanes to end up in the THIRD lane next to the central barrier....?
It must have been total, blind panic, as otherwise, having come on the slip road wrong-way, the nearest "available/safe" lane would have been the hard shoulder rather than the "fast" lane....

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17/10/2018 at 8:51am
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Tragically this seems to happen from time to time and it's not always elderly drivers either. Perhaps there should be some mechanism which physically stops drivers from entering the wrong slip road from a roundabout, but I don't know what.

In addition, both roundabouts and sat navs can be pretty confusing when there are multiple exits.

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17/10/2018 at 9:51am
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It's very sad, always seems that the innocent in accidents get hurt or die and the offending drivers survive.

Thoughts with all families

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17/10/2018 at 12:19pm
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Quote: Originally posted by JoannaLesley on 17/10/2018
Tragically this seems to happen from time to time and it's not always elderly drivers either. Perhaps there should be some mechanism which physically stops drivers from entering the wrong slip road from a roundabout, but I don't know what.

In addition, both roundabouts and sat navs can be pretty confusing when there are multiple exits.



more so for someone used to driving on the other side of the road as i think this person was..

purely a guess but they probably went the wrong way on the round a bout leading to the motorway slip road..

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17/10/2018 at 3:08pm
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Quote: Originally posted by duffs54 on 17/10/2018
It's very sad, always seems that the innocent in accidents get hurt or die and the offending drivers survive.

Thoughts with all families


It's almost a copycat of an incident on the M1 in Leicestershire. The driver going the wrong way was 84, and he hit a van in which the driver in his 30's died.
In both incidents, I find it puzzling that the innocent drivers did not see the oncoming vehicles and then take evasive action. There have been explanations for M-way crashes that happen because many drivers do not look far enough ahead - i.e., not looking much further ahead than the vehicle in front of them. This habit could explain the rogue car 'appearing' when reaction was already too late.
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All the drivers are innocent really it's not like they made a deliberate attempt to drive up the wrong side of the road (in these cases anyway )


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moments of inattention.. we all have them.. combine moments of inattention with someone coming the wrong way in the fast lane and you have what has just happened..

its what causes most accidents.. a combination of circumstances all coming together at the wrong time..

with a terminal (coming together speed) of over one hundred miles per hour that moment of inattention only need to be for split second..

mostly we all get away with moments of inattention.. on the odd very rare occasion we dont..

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17/10/2018 at 5:10pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Mitchamitri on 17/10/2018
All the drivers are innocent really it's not like they made a deliberate attempt to drive up the wrong side of the road (in these cases anyway )


I agree that they are not guilty of deliberately committing a crime, but they are by no means innocent of causing the crash.
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17/10/2018 at 5:28pm
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Quote: Originally posted by The 2 Tops on 17/10/2018
Quote: Originally posted by duffs54 on 17/10/2018
It's very sad, always seems that the innocent in accidents get hurt or die and the offending drivers survive.

Thoughts with all families


It's almost a copycat of an incident on the M1 in Leicestershire. The driver going the wrong way was 84, and he hit a van in which the driver in his 30's died.
In both incidents, I find it puzzling that the innocent drivers did not see the oncoming vehicles and then take evasive action. There have been explanations for M-way crashes that happen because many drivers do not look far enough ahead - i.e., not looking much further ahead than the vehicle in front of them. This habit could explain the rogue car 'appearing' when reaction was already too late.
Bertie.




Who's to say they didn't take (unsuccessful) evasive action? Maybe they swerved into lane two... just as the oncoming car/caravan did the same!
Or a similar swerve, only to be side-swiped by an artic?
Or maybe attempted to take the bit of rough between tarmac and central reservation (As the dash-cam car did), only to flip over, without making contact with the car/caravan?

Unless there's been a news update, confirming head on collision(s), we're all guessing as to the circumstances.   I strongly suspect the innocent victim may well have seen the oncoming car/caravan, and did take, or at least attempted to take, evasive action. With traffic one side, and steel barriers the other (assuming all were still in lane 3 at this stage?) maybe there was no evasive action to take, worthy of the name! Not all such attempts can be successful, otherwise there'd be no accidents!
I agree that many "don't look far enough ahead", but even that is no guarantee of getting home for tea every night!

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