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via mobile 18/5/2019 at 11:31pm
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We live in a newish property in Scotland . There is a covenant prohibiting caravans . Pretty sure it refers to the driveway but checking on Monday. Wanting to put a. 2 berth in the garden behind the front line of the house tucked away and told the neighbours it would be invisible.

Bought a van today and was parked and still hitched to the van. 2 neighbours had been drinking and threatened to burn it down if I put it in situ. Going to clarify if banned for driveway or entire property.    If the latter , thinking of encasing it in a pergola shelter.

Any pearls of wisdom on any of this.


via mobile 18/5/2019 at 11:40pm
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It’s not worth a feud with neighbours, no matter who is right or wrong.

I’d suck it up unless a chat and sober explanation can resolve it amicably.

Whatever you do in a new neighbourhood, don’t make enemies.

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19/5/2019 at 12:19am
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If it's the entire property, you won't be saved by a pergola! What I don't understand is why not check the Covenant before buying the van?

Not very nice of neighbours to take that sort of attitude, though.    

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19/5/2019 at 6:56am
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Definitely the entire property.


19/5/2019 at 10:58am
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Most covenants cannot be enforced as it was the builder that put it in place for when the area was developed. Does not sound like a very nice neighbourhood if people are threatening you before you have even unhitched the caravan. Make a note of their threats just in case they become a reality. Maybe to keep some sort of relationship with neighbours look for a local caravan storage are nearby?


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19/5/2019 at 11:03am
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If it's a newish property I wouldn't rely on the covenant being unenforceable. Why on earth buy a caravan aned try to site it there if you know the covenant is in place anyway?

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19/5/2019 at 3:53pm
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A property we own has covenants namely ONE/ no waste bins to be left in front of property other than on bin collection day. TWO/ no vehicle to be parked in front of the building line other than on a driveway. THREE/ no vehicles to be driven or parked on grassed areas. Some of the properties are leasehold but even so the covenants are ignored. I would refer you to a covenant in common law no person drunk or otherwise is allowed to threaten arson or other damage to intimidate or spoil a persons enjoyment of their property or home. Such threats are contrary to your human rights here in the Uk regardless of EU. The saying an English mans home is his castle. My neighbours come from various countries we respect one another. If its a choice between the freedom of caravanning or intimidation of drunks my sale board would be on the house.     


via mobile 19/5/2019 at 5:41pm
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The covenant will cover the whole property. One of the reasons your neighbours bought their houses could well be as they did not want caravans parked next to them. As you ignored this and went ahead and bought the caravan the best you can do now is look for storage in your near area or put it on a seasonal site that has storage.


19/5/2019 at 6:49pm
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Evidently they can sometimes be removed if you can show reason

https://coodes.co.uk/blog/restrictive-covenants-updating-removing/

I hadn’t realised it was from an advert from a law firm but aside from that the info looks valid - I make no recommendation or otherwise for the law firm concerned.

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builders covenants aren't worth toffee...Our house has one...we have lived here over 30 yrs and have had caravans / boats etc on the front and there have been no issues..We are even banned from having tv aerials on the outside ---

as for threats to burn your van....Threats to commit arson / criminal damage etc is a crime so iw Ould put a call into the local police to make them aware should any further issues arise.


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19/5/2019 at 10:07pm
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Might be worth checking out if the law in Scotland is different regarding covenants than in England - after all, house buying procedure/legislation is very different up here than down south.

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20/5/2019 at 6:45am
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Quote: Originally posted by moorlander999 on 19/5/2019
builders covenants aren't worth toffee...Our house has one...we have lived here over 30 yrs and have had caravans / boats etc on the front and there have been no issues..We are even banned from having tv aerials on the outside ---



Covenants such as this are enforceable, but by the builder who imposed them originally and after complaints from other residents. If you’ve been in your house for more than 30 years the chances are the builders concerned are no longer in business and therefore unable to enforce a covenant.

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20/5/2019 at 8:27am
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Nice that so many folk are willing to help but for this you really do need proper legal advice.
May I suggest a visit to to a CAB before spending money with a solicitor.


20/5/2019 at 8:44am
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We bought our house knowing that there was a covenant on it - although we had already had our offer accepted and had employed a solicitor. Previously, we have always been able to park our caravan at home. We found a neighbour who recommended the storage facility he uses, so we took that route. It costs us around £350 a year, I think - obviously more than keeping it at home. However, there are distinct advantages. In particular, it's not clear to all and sundry when we are away from home. Walking around our village, I always know which caravan owners are away! Secondly, we don't have to look at it all the time from our front windows!

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20/5/2019 at 2:03pm
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Restrictive covenants are put in place by builders to keep the estate looking smart and tidy, to maintain their sales. Once the development is complete they have no interest. Down the line builders go out of business or get taken over, so enforcing them gets difficult


20/5/2019 at 2:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by chrisn7 on 20/5/2019
Restrictive covenants are put in place by builders to keep the estate looking smart and tidy, to maintain their sales. Once the development is complete they have no interest. Down the line builders go out of business or get taken over, so enforcing them gets difficult



Before buying that concept IMO it is best to get a focused legal mind to read the precise wording of ones deeds!




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