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Subject Topic: White Vinger - Waste System Post Reply Post New Topic
Personblack-major
17/8/2019 at 5:41pm
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does anybody else use diluted white vinegar to clean the top tank + toilet cassette + waste system

over the years we all have had the issue with the dreaded black bits from the top tank + stained looking toilet cassette + gunge clogged waste pipes from the kitchen and shower etc

instead of buying expensive tank and cassette cleaner + something to deal with the gunge etc to flush the system out – I use white diluted white vinegar to flush and clean the waste systems in our van and have done so for years after a tip from an ex caravan service engineer

Make your systems are empty - pour 250ml of white vinegar in the top tank and fill to the brim with fresh clean water and do the same in the toilet and leave it for 24 hrs – this totally cleans all the stains and algae from both of the units and leaves sanitised and clean ready for use

Also get hold of 2 wine corks to plug up the outside pipes and pour 250ml down the sink hole – do the same measure in the toilet sink and shower plug hole and slowly fill up the waste pipes with clean warm water also leave for 24hrs – this completely eradicates all grease – scum - hair deposits – after the 24 hour soak period flush with warm water

1-ltr of branded cassettes and tank and pipe cleaner in £10.99 – the white vinegar is 35p for 500ml in Aldi

THIS TIP IS FOR THE WASTE SYSTEM ONLY AND WOULD NOT RECOMMEND FOR THE FRESH WATER SYSTEM – THERE ARE PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET SUCH AS PURECLEAN ETC FOR THAT APPLICATION


Persontango55
17/8/2019 at 7:30pm
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I just use a small dose of Milton and leave overnight to clean the toilet flush tank which eliminates thos black bits. It's cheap, easy to store, more convenient and a bottle will last you a long time so very cost effective. Puriclean can also be used but a bit more expensive which is used in the application of treating systems for drinking water so not needed for flush toilet tretment.


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Personbirder99
17/8/2019 at 10:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by tango55 on 17/8/2019
I just use a small dose of Milton and leave overnight to clean the toilet flush tank which eliminates thos black bits. It's cheap, easy to store, more convenient and a bottle will last you a long time so very cost effective. Puriclean can also be used but a bit more expensive which is used in the application of treating systems for drinking water so not needed for flush toilet tretment.


I am concerned about what the chlorine in Milton would do to the plastic of the toilet system and the thin walled convoluted pipes in the waste water system. I don't want to save a few quid on one thing only to have to spend a fortune on another or to have to deal will a waste pipe leaking under the sink. Out of interest I have never had black bits in my top tank since using only Elsan Pink. With the Thetford Pink I had the problem a few times.

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Personmarg6
18/8/2019 at 6:58am
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Quote: Originally posted by birder99 on 17/8/2019
Quote: Originally posted by tango55 on 17/8/2019
I just use a small dose of Milton and leave overnight to clean the toilet flush tank which eliminates thos black bits. It's cheap, easy to store, more convenient and a bottle will last you a long time so very cost effective. Puriclean can also be used but a bit more expensive which is used in the application of treating systems for drinking water so not needed for flush toilet tretment.


I am concerned about what the chlorine in Milton would do to the plastic of the toilet system and the thin walled convoluted pipes in the waste water system. I don't want to save a few quid on one thing only to have to spend a fortune on another or to have to deal will a waste pipe leaking under the sink. Out of interest I have never had black bits in my top tank since using only Elsan Pink. With the Thetford Pink I had the problem a few times.


if Milton is safe enough to use in babies bottles every day for approx. 3 years then im sure Milton used once or twice a year in small amounts presents no harm to the caravans plumbing plastics


PersonPixie_Hez
18/8/2019 at 8:57am
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Just a quick tip about black bits. We were plagued by them several years ago and I asked around about what causes them. I got all sorts of answers to prevent them and systematically tried a few but the one that worked was to stop using Thetford pink and switch to Elsan pink. Since switching in 2012, I have never had a single black bit.

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Persontango55
18/8/2019 at 10:24am
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Regarding the above 2 posts:
I only ever used Milton once a year so it's not a product I used on a regular basis plus I have to agree with both that since changing from Thetford pink flush to Elsan I haven't encountered the problem of black bits either. This means that I don't have to treat the toilet flush anymore, my respons was to the OP regarding how to tackle the problem.

Reply to the OP:
Once the black bits have been eliminated change to Elsan as prevention is better than cure as they say.


PersonPaul_B
18/8/2019 at 10:49am
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for sinks and drains I use CaraTol on a regular basis https://www.carapak.co.uk/product/caratol/ and for the toilet top tank its Elson pink


Personshaggy2000
19/8/2019 at 12:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by marg6 on 18/8/2019
Quote: Originally posted by birder99 on 17/8/2019
Quote: Originally posted by tango55 on 17/8/2019
I just use a small dose of Milton and leave overnight to clean the toilet flush tank which eliminates thos black bits. It's cheap, easy to store, more convenient and a bottle will last you a long time so very cost effective. Puriclean can also be used but a bit more expensive which is used in the application of treating systems for drinking water so not needed for flush toilet tretment.


I am concerned about what the chlorine in Milton would do to the plastic of the toilet system and the thin walled convoluted pipes in the waste water system. I don't want to save a few quid on one thing only to have to spend a fortune on another or to have to deal will a waste pipe leaking under the sink. Out of interest I have never had black bits in my top tank since using only Elsan Pink. With the Thetford Pink I had the problem a few times.


if Milton is safe enough to use in babies bottles every day for approx. 3 years then im sure Milton used once or twice a year in small amounts presents no harm to the caravans plumbing plastics



your right, Milton will do no harm to plastics, but if there is any metal, that's a different story.



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