Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Advent Calendar

Advertisement

Message Forums
Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
  Caravans and Caravanning 		Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: Best 4 berth single axle Post Reply Post New Topic
PersonPennine Plodder
19/8/2019 at 3:42pm
 Location: Wakefield West York
 Outfit: Swift Basecamp+ Fo View Pennine Plodder's Profile View Profile   Reply to Pennine Plodder Reply   Quote Pennine Plodder Quote  
Joined: 28/5/2004

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1834
Site Reviews Total: 27
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 1  
Site Reviews 2022: 1  
Site Reviews 2021: 1  
Site Reviews 2020: 1  
Site Reviews 2019: 3  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 3
Site Nights 2022: 10
Site Nights 2021: 7
Site Nights 2020: 3
Site Nights 2019: 15
Site Nights 2018: 0
In danger of opening a can of worms.....
My daughter and her family are sold on caravanning - I gave them my Geist 485 and once they got used to the limited size, they enjoyed the experience. However that is a 2 berth and they really could do with a reliable 4 berth. So everyone, tell me which one you recommend. Which have issues with damp, what should they avoid?

-------------
Some days are diamonds.......

   
       


PersonRob and Tina
19/8/2019 at 4:10pm
 Location: Royal Forest of Dean
 Outfit:  Swift Major 4SB View Rob and Tina's Profile View Profile   Reply to Rob and Tina Reply   Quote Rob and Tina Quote  
Joined: 17/10/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3375
Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Any caravan could be damp, just read the threads on this forum, we have members with £30000 damp vans and others have 20 year old vans that cost £1000 and are bone dry.

I suppose any recommendations we would make would depend on the budget available, the layout they like and any weight restrictions imposed by their tow car or driving licences. A bit more information would help us make some helpful suggestions.


Rob


Discounted Insurance Quotes for UKCampsite.co.uk visitors! Up to 12.5% off!
UKCampsite.co.uk users are rewarded with up to 12.5% off Caravan Guard touring caravan insurance, folding camper and trailer tent insurance, and 5% off motorhome and campervan insurance. Static caravan insurance is also available. Get an online quote now

Person664DaveS
via mobile 19/8/2019 at 5:18pm
 Location: Shropshire
 Outfit: Bailey Phoenix GT 75 View 664DaveS's Profile View Profile   Reply to 664DaveS Reply   Quote 664DaveS Quote  
Joined: 24/7/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4382
Site Reviews Total: 55
Site Reviews 2024: 2  
Site Reviews 2023: 8  
Site Reviews 2022: 6  
Site Reviews 2021: 6  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 3  
Site Reviews 2018: 4  
Site Nights 2024: 16
Site Nights 2023: 55
Site Nights 2022: 54
Site Nights 2021: 56
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 20
Site Nights 2018: 41
There are a lot of for berths available. Fixed double bed, fixed single etc.
Might be worth lookng at some dealers or manufacturets websites to see the layouts on the market.

-------------
DS-There's more to life than football!!!


Personnavver
19/8/2019 at 7:54pm
 Location: West country
 Outfit: Mondeo View navver's Profile View Profile   Reply to navver Reply   Quote navver Quote  
Joined: 23/8/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4663
Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Most newer 4 berths seem to be almost entirely fixed bed. If they have young children they can only put the children to bed early in the fixed bed unless Mum and Dad spend teh evening in the awning. Not very family friendly in my opinion.

Older vans had seats/bunks at the back for the kids so they could play by day and sleep in the evenings.


Personalan29
19/8/2019 at 8:07pm
 Location: Wirral
 Outfit: Swift Freestyle 520 on seasonal pitch View alan29's Profile View Profile   Reply to alan29 Reply   Quote alan29 Quote  
Joined: 03/5/2005

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4679
Site Reviews Total: 12
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Best to look around some dealers to see whats available. Totally agree about fixed beds when you have kids plus I'm 6 foot 3 and I havent seen a fixed bed that meets my needs.


Advertisement



Person664DaveS
via mobile 19/8/2019 at 8:26pm
 Location: Shropshire
 Outfit: Bailey Phoenix GT 75 View 664DaveS's Profile View Profile   Reply to 664DaveS Reply   Quote 664DaveS Quote  
Joined: 24/7/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4382
Site Reviews Total: 55
Site Reviews 2024: 2  
Site Reviews 2023: 8  
Site Reviews 2022: 6  
Site Reviews 2021: 6  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 3  
Site Reviews 2018: 4  
Site Nights 2024: 16
Site Nights 2023: 55
Site Nights 2022: 54
Site Nights 2021: 56
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 20
Site Nights 2018: 41
We went for 2 single fixed beds as they are 6'4" long in our Cadiz. I am 6'2".
Our previous Vigo had a transverse fixed bed which was barely long enough.
Some of new centre island beds must be for small people only!

-------------
DS-There's more to life than football!!!


Personrichardandjo2010
19/8/2019 at 8:56pm
 Location: essex
 Outfit: Swift Challenger 570 View richardandjo2010's Profile View Profile   Reply to richardandjo2010 Reply   Quote richardandjo2010 Quote  
Joined: 21/8/2014

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   752
Site Reviews Total: 6
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 2  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 2
Any caravan can be damp, those built before 2006 are less likely to according to a service engineer I know. as for layout it would be wise to look at as many as possible and set all the beds up so you can get a feel of how it would be in night time mode. A van with a end bathroom is good with young families if you intend to use your own facilities or basic camp sites, with this layout you could get a side dinette which will convert to a single bed with a bunk above, this will be suitable for persons around 10st or less then you will get two sofas upfront making a double bed

-------------
its our imperfections that makes us perfect


PersonPennine Plodder
19/8/2019 at 9:49pm
 Location: Wakefield West York
 Outfit: Swift Basecamp+ Fo View Pennine Plodder's Profile View Profile   Reply to Pennine Plodder Reply   Quote Pennine Plodder Quote  
Joined: 28/5/2004

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   1834
Site Reviews Total: 27
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 1  
Site Reviews 2022: 1  
Site Reviews 2021: 1  
Site Reviews 2020: 1  
Site Reviews 2019: 3  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 3
Site Nights 2022: 10
Site Nights 2021: 7
Site Nights 2020: 3
Site Nights 2019: 15
Site Nights 2018: 0
The family have thought that a Bailey Champagne 4 berth looked to have the set up which would work for them. Rear bathroom, side dinette. I am more interested in comments from owners - people with experience of the caravans. We have all heard of leaky Lunars, I seem to think I have heard negative comments on Bailey vans - being light but prone to damp.

-------------
Some days are diamonds.......

   
       


PersonRob and Tina
via mobile 19/8/2019 at 10:13pm
 Location: Royal Forest of Dean
 Outfit:  Swift Major 4SB View Rob and Tina's Profile View Profile   Reply to Rob and Tina Reply   Quote Rob and Tina Quote  
Joined: 17/10/2007

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3375
Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
What about the budget and the car or licence restrictions? There is little point in us suggesting or recommending caravans that are too heavy or too expensive.

As mentioned above, any caravan could have damp problems. Bailey, Swift, Lunar etc can all have problems, it's a case of finding a suitable caravan and then making sure it is as problem free as possible. Even brand new vans have problems.

We can't really give our experience of particular outfits until we know which caravans are suitable but in general as everybody has said already any caravan can have problems.

Rob


Personnavver
20/8/2019 at 7:24pm
 Location: West country
 Outfit: Mondeo View navver's Profile View Profile   Reply to navver Reply   Quote navver Quote  
Joined: 23/8/2008

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   4663
Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
All caravans can leak usually through openings in the basic shell. Windows, roof lights, doors, awning rail, fridge vents, battery box hatch, cassette toilet hatches x2, water inlet, grab handles, exterior lights, under-bed storage hatch on some. Also some front and rear panels can crack.

All these are sealed with seals of some type which can deteriorate. Regular servicing consisting of a thorough damp check will find a leak before too much structural damage is done.


Advertisement



Personshaggy2000
22/8/2019 at 12:46pm
 Location: County Durham
 Outfit: Explore 304 View shaggy2000's Profile View Profile   Reply to shaggy2000 Reply   Quote shaggy2000 Quote  
Joined: 27/3/2012

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   514
Tent Reviews:   1
Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
I can highly recommend the Elddis Xplore 304, its a small 4 berth.

The front seating area converts into a double bed and a small dinete on one side of the van turns into a single bed while a fold down bunk is directly above it.


Personjim oldham
22/8/2019 at 2:24pm
 Location: Wigan
 Outfit: VWSharan. Sport 442. View jim oldham's Profile View Profile   Reply to jim oldham Reply   Quote jim oldham Quote  
Joined: 03/10/2004

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   1431
Site Reviews Total: 2
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Quote: Originally posted by Pennine Plodder on 19/8/2019
The family have thought that a Bailey Champagne 4 berth looked to have the set up which would work for them.


The side dinette top bunk is only suitable for young children and has a weight limit of around 70 Kgs.

Check carefully for damp.
Our Champagne had damp readings of over 20% in the rear NS wardrobe. The rear strap on top of the caravan was removed, cleaned and re-sealed under the warranty.
I believe this is a common problem.
All now sorted.


Personpath20
26/8/2019 at 8:00pm
 Location: Lancashire
 Outfit: None Entered View path20's Profile View Profile   Reply to path20 Reply   Quote path20 Quote  
Joined: 31/8/2005

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   1413
Site Reviews Total: 4
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 1  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 1  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 7
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 4
Site Nights 2018: 1
What about a Swift 565, twin fixed beds and double can be made up at the front, rear wash room/wc.
We love ours.


Personboff
28/8/2019 at 12:47pm
 Location: N Wales
 Outfit: Hymer Nova 590GL View boff's Profile View Profile   Reply to boff Reply   Quote boff Quote  
Joined: 13/2/2005

Platinum Member
Platinum Member

Forum Posts:   528
Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
We have a 4 berth with a fixed transverse bed. It is the perfect layout for the 2 of us, but would I recommend it for a family?   No way the bed takes up too much space for a family I would look at a more flexible layout.



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

Prev       Next
Quick Links - All Forums - Caravans and Caravanning - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...

8652 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews] 



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement
Advertisement


UKCampsite.co.uk
2024 Advent Calendar

Advent Calendar

24 Daily Prizes PLUS a Christmas Day Star Prize worth £999

Request a Reminder