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PersonJohn4703
20/11/2020 at 8:14pm
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I used to have a Swift and now have an Elddis Avante 454 which is a great caravan. The Sift had an internal fresh water tank and I'd like to fit one to my Avente. Does anyone know what is involved? Any advice would be appreciated.
To answer why I want it. It does not freeze when away in the winter, it gives water to make a drink as soon as you arrive at a site, or even when stopping on the way. The tank in the #Swift had a gauge so I was certain I had plenty of water for a shower without going outside when it was raining or snowing to check the aquaroll.

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We had 127 nights away in the caravan in 2023.


Personmarg6
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whilst our van has the tank already fitted and yes its advantages are great, would i bother fitting one? no, the cost just wouldnt warrant it, nevermind the mess involved, you would need to buy,

tank
pump
pipework
electrical connections and switches

when all you need to do is insulate your aquaroll and feedpipe


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my old avondale van has a connection for an internal supply under the sink.. i fitted a 28 litre plastic container under the sink and connected it up.. i would not be without it..

its just too handy having water whenever you want it.. mind you i do lot a lot off of site touring..

trog


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Rather than fitting an internal tank for the few times when it is really needed, I have fitted an Truma Ultraflow Compact inlet in the bathroom and can then use whatever I want as a water carrier in the winter or on long distance travels. The water carrier with its contents travel in the back of the car and simply placed in the bathroom and connected up when needed. I use my camping water carrier as its about 20l but you could use whatever you have handy. During low temp winter caravanning the internal system is used at night and the pump is simply taken from the outside aquaroll and connected to the internal socket. If it is not too cold a jacket on the aquaroll and a Kingspan block under it will keep most of the effects of freezing at bay, but on very cold nights I drain the aquaroll and refill it in the morning. I've been away in temps as low as minus 14C with no problems, although the waste water has to go into a container with a removable lid so that I can tip the ice cube out in the morning (I use an underbed storage box with a small hole cut in the top for the waste pipe (insulated). All good fun and frost is better than rain if you are prepared for it.

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22/11/2020 at 10:21am
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Why not just take some bottled water for your drinks when you arrive or on the road and then an insulation jacket for the aquaroll.

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Personiank01
22/11/2020 at 1:01pm
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Quote: Originally posted by John4703 on 20/11/2020
I used to have a Swift and now have an Elddis Avante 454 which is a great caravan. The Sift had an internal fresh water tank and I'd like to fit one to my Avente. Does anyone know what is involved? Any advice would be appreciated.
To answer why I want it. It does not freeze when away in the winter, it gives water to make a drink as soon as you arrive at a site, or even when stopping on the way. The tank in the #Swift had a gauge so I was certain I had plenty of water for a shower without going outside when it was raining or snowing to check the aquaroll.


Normally the onboard tank is 40 litres so if it is full you immediately lose 40kgs off your payload and the payload on the Avante is not that great.
On the higher spec Buccaneer caravans the tank is fitted under the island bed and connected into the system. I am sure that a damper may need to be fitted. There is a monitor for volume of water in the onboard tank so should not be an issue fitting a gauge.
Probably be best to buy the parts and to get an AWS technician to fit the unit to preserve the warranty.


PersonSupatramp
via mobile 29/11/2020 at 9:01am
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There is a system, because I'm currently hampered from changing
my van cos so many caravans, even twin axle, don't have them. I can't find a link in my tablet bookmarks, but will look later on my laptop.


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PersonColin21
29/11/2020 at 11:17am
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I fitted an internal water tank to an old caravan we had many years ago. It had neither a water system of any kind or any electrics when we bought it, so I fitted both. However, I found the internal tank to be more trouble than it was worth. It added weight and took up space, and the biggest problem of all was filling it. I either had to take the caravan to a tap and use a hose, or I had to go backwards and forwards with a 5 gallon water bottle and fill it that way.

These days we have a water container outside with a submersible pump, but we still take a small water container for drinking water which we use along the journey and for making cold drinks when on site as we can put it in the fridge. We don't have a problem with freezing though as we never go away when it's anywhere near that cold.


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PersonJohn4703
29/11/2020 at 7:39pm
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I now have my caravan back from being serviced so I will see which tank from http://www.caktanks.co.uk/ will fit near the axle.
I think that I can fit a float switch to control the existing pump in the aquarol and an an internal pump operated by the existing pressure switch to pump water from the internal tank. I don't think I'll have a lot of space so it will be a small tank. That helps with weight as well.
I don't want to buy bottled water as that means single use plastic bottles that harm the environment so a fixed internal tank will be better.
I will probably wait until we can go away again (we are in tier 4 in Scotland at present so can't go anywhere) and see how much water I use for a shower, if the internal tank holds that much it will do for us.

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We had 127 nights away in the caravan in 2023.


PersonColin21
29/11/2020 at 8:08pm
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Quote: Originally posted by John4703 on 29/11/2020

I don't want to buy bottled water as that means single use plastic bottles that harm the environment so a fixed internal tank will be better.



I would never buy bottled water in this country anyway. I can't think of any better way of wasting money! Horrendous price compared to tap water. We take a small water container and fill it from the tap, at home before we leave, or from the site if we are moving on or going home. We use that water container for cold drinks while we are away too, as we can put it in the fridge if the weather's hot.



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Personratcatcher
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 29/11/2020
Quote: Originally posted by John4703 on 29/11/2020

I don't want to buy bottled water as that means single use plastic bottles that harm the environment so a fixed internal tank will be better.



I would never buy bottled water in this country anyway. I can't think of any better way of wasting money! Horrendous price compared to tap water. We take a small water container and fill it from the tap, at home before we leave, or from the site if we are moving on or going home. We use that water container for cold drinks while we are away too, as we can put it in the fridge if the weather's hot.



The simple solutions are often the best.

We don't have an onboard tank and I wouldn't want one either
My son's Globestar has one under the front chest of drawers and to my knowledge it has never been used.


Personmarg6
30/11/2020 at 1:58pm
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we have an on board tank, and would never drea of moving the caravan with any water in it! certainly not more than a couple of liters for a quick wash of hands if we had to use the loo while travelling, and if we want a drink while on the move or even on arrival, as we have dogs we always have a refillable water container that is kept in the fridge and locked in place so it cant move

i dont think any of those caktanks would do the job as they are all for external fitting, which defeats the point as they would still freeze in cold weather


Persontrog100
30/11/2020 at 4:03pm
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Quote: Originally posted by marg6 on 30/11/2020
we have an on board tank, and would never drea of moving the caravan with any water in it! certainly not more than a couple of liters for a quick wash of hands if we had to use the loo while travelling, and if we want a drink while on the move or even on arrival, as we have dogs we always have a refillable water container that is kept in the fridge and locked in place so it cant move

i dont think any of those caktanks would do the job as they are all for external fitting, which defeats the point as they would still freeze in cold weather


i travel with a full onboard 28 litre water tank.. with me its not about freezing simply pure convenience.. i can stop anywhere and be fully functional without any messing about..

i carry one 28 litre tank in the caravan and two in the back of my truck.. when the onboard tank empties i have a small pump to transfer water from containers in the truck to the tank in the van..

i dont not use an aqauroll.. this saves space in the van but if it suits me i can connect one of my containers to the outside connection and bypass the onboard tank..

my van is %100 stable with all onboard water in place..

i do lot of off-site touring and my van is set up accordingly.. stop and use with no setting up..

trog



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http://capricorn-shop.mybigcommerce.com/automatic-onboard-water-tank-system/

Found it at last, the water system I was on about. A guy had fitted it in his caravan, either on here or another forum. It would be worth checking the Search function on here.

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