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21/3/2021 at 5:15pm
Location: Derby.
Outfit: Karsten 350+Awnings
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No details given, but assuming we a talking caravan awning?
Each to their own, but here's something to consider... or not, as the case may be...
A fixed groundsheet is all nice a cosy, but come in and out of the door when it's raining, and puddles will form. They may not stay by the doorway, but rather trickle away to form a puddle (or puddles) at low point(s) further within the awning.
Leave the door open in a downpour, and it could well flood in there!
Having a loose/unfitted groundsheet allows for folding it back (away from the doorway), or the ability to sweep away any excess lying water to all perimeters (rather than only out through the doorway).
Obviously, you don't say what awning you have, but there's also the potential (with some awnings) to roll up side walls, to open it all up in fine weather. Again, a fixed groundsheet wouldn't allow this.
Not having a fixed groundsheet also gives you opportunities, to cover all bases (literally!) each time you go away... waterproof, breathable, or indeed lush manicured lawn where no groundsheet is required/desired?
There's also the small matter of the vast majority of camp sites (happy to be corrected if that's an exaggeration) insisting on "Breathable groundsheets only".
Obviously a "semi-fixed" groundsheet (Velcro/Toggles/Similar?) negates some, if not all of my points, but hopefully that has given you a little food for thought, before you go and do anything rash/expensive/time consuming with the awning you have, which has of course been designed specifically for it's purpose!
 
All the above is based on my experience of my first tent having a sloping main entrance door and sewn-in waterproof groundsheet. We moved away from that design very very quickly, and very very early in our camping career!
Having moved to sheltered/protected entrance doors, we have since moved to a modular tent system, which includes additional optional extension awnings. We purchased the (optional) zip-in waterproof groundsheet for these awnings, and haven't used it once, in almost six years! (Preferring grass first, or a breathable groundsheet if needed). I should have known better! 
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According to my point of view there are reasons to have a sewn in groundsheet. If you don’t want rodents in your tent or awning then believe me you would want a sewn in groundsheet.
I don’t care about water raining in, don’t care about packing it away, I’d lay a separate ground sheet underneath the sewn in one to keep it clean so that wouldn’t be an issue. I can come up with solutions for peoples arguments about reasons why a sewn in groundsheet would be a bad idea. But I challenge you to come up with a permanent solution other than sewing in a groundsheet to keeping rats out!!!!!
All the campsites I went to last year and the ones I’ve been to this year all have rats, they are everywhere not just on campsites we have them in our garden at home because my neighbour insists on not taking down her bird feeder.
Because I don’t have a sewn in groundsheet , any gaps where the awning is pegged down and where the mud flaps are there are gaps where rats can easily make their way in. Last year we had a persistent rat that was trying it’s hardest to get in, despite all our efforts to keep it out. We were up most of the night. Once we fell asleep the rat gained entry and urinated on everything and it stunk awful, there was no food in the awning but maybe it could smell our waste bin???everything that was on the awning carpet had to be binned and once home we scrubbed and disinfected the awning and the carpet.
Atm we’re at a campsite where they told us they don’t have rats but I’ve heard them scurrying along the mud flaps and they have been in the awning. I sleep in the sleeping compartment in the awning and can hear the least little sound. The only thing we’ve found it that spraying the mud flaps outside and inside the parimiter of the awning with hot pepper sauce seems to do the trick, but if you get a really persistent rat,ceven that won’t deter them.
I was actually thinking of an inner tent/awning, like the bedroom compartments where it has a separate compartment with the groundsheet sewn in, so you would come thro the main door then unzip another door and once inside the second door, it’s all enclosed, like a big bedroom compartment. Is there such a thing??? I would lay a groundsheet down first to keep the inner compartments groundsheet clean.
Surely it can’t be just me who has issues with rats, or are you all in caravans and haven’t a clue that there are rats that come out in the dark.
Went to skipsea sands a park dean campsite and it was overrun with rats. Go to put rubbish in the big bins and there would be 5/6 rats in the bins where they had chewed holes in the rubber lid. There were rats running all over the bins and running all over the place on the streets and in/out of tents.
Everyone had issues with rats at skipsea sands. Hot pepper sauce did help a lot, mixed with water and washing up liquid, they can’t stand the smell, so in theory keep away. The washing up liquid helps the hot sauce attach to fabrics so not washed away easily.
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