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15/4/2021 at 11:10pm
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hi all , just been watching my local news programme (Calendar for Yorkshire)
and it mentioned people with sd satelite boxes, will not be able to receive calendar from April 13 , 2 days ago,
i have an old satelite box , in my van, that we use when on holiday, dunno if its sd or hd but its probably 15 years old, we usually watch the calendar news, when away from yorkshire, cos thats what the box is set for. does anyone know if the box will still work, or is it just the calender thats afected, is this true for other regions?
thanks , stu

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15/4/2021 at 11:23pm
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It looks like its the tip of the iceberg. ITV seem to be discontinuing simulcast of HD and SD via the Astra Satellites. I suspect other channels will follow suit.

Over the next 2 or 3 years at a guess we will both need to retire our ageing, reliable and convenient SD boxes and replace them with HD ones. This hacks me off - I don’t see the point of HD TV on a portable TV. Doubtless I will have to replace the TV too.

Progress I suppose ho hum!!

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16/4/2021 at 5:43pm
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I always reckon we are forced to get rid of perfectly good gear "as it is no longer supported" just to boost sales of new gear.


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Built in obsolescence. We have a couple of Samsung tablets which no longer support updates and some apps, yet work well.


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16/4/2021 at 7:57pm
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From the horses mouth

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16/4/2021 at 8:15pm
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That was the ITV thing I read which lead to my original answer to GsharpWinger (this is an apple device and hash is a pound sign!!).

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17/4/2021 at 9:32am
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I am a bit thick when it comes to these things, so does it mean that we will all have to get new boxes and tvs or not? we have an ancient Sky box which we take away, also have an hd box but that is for an hd tv which we bought because loads of football in particular was only on Amazon Prime (now it's not, but that's another story).


17/4/2021 at 12:41pm
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If all the other channels follow ITV’s example and stop transmitting the SD streams then in time you will have to replace the satellite box as on the channels broadcast in HD you will get sound but no picture.

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17/4/2021 at 6:56pm
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HD has surely been the future for some time now? One option might be to buy a TV with a built in satellite receiver Avtex/Cello? I think it excellent that ITV are converting their local stations to HD, just wish the BBC would do the same!

David


10/5/2021 at 9:16pm
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That was the ITV thing I read which lead to my original answer to GsharpWinger (this is an apple device and hash is a pound sign!!).
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so ,if i get an HD sky box, will my old caravan telly work on it,think its SD only, but its an led one.?
stu

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Quote: Originally posted by David Klyne on 17/4/2021
HD has surely been the future for some time now? One option might be to buy a TV with a built in satellite receiver Avtex/Cello? I think it excellent that ITV are converting their local stations to HD, just wish the BBC would do the same!

David



waste of time and money as far as I'm concerned my eyesight won't give me any benefit from HD + when using Mifi HD eats data


11/5/2021 at 1:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by David Klyne on 17/4/2021
HD has surely been the future for some time now? One option might be to buy a TV with a built in satellite receiver Avtex/Cello? I think it excellent that ITV are converting their local stations to HD, just wish the BBC would do the same!

David



The issue that impacts some is nothing to do with gaining HD, but losing SD.
For those of us that care for the planet, it is depressing to be dismissed with buy a TV with an HD satellite decoder, plus the junking of otherwise usable TVs and stand alone decoders.
I does not stop there, it significantly impacts on the amount of data storage needed for recorded content. Along with that, it screws up the use of USB memory sticks for files over 4 GB, easily swamped by even an F1 race in HD format. Anything over 4 GB has to be stitched into multiple files.

Great that technology marches on, and this of value with devices able display it, just a shame they choose to make existing kit obsolete with the premature negative environmental impact that forces.



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Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 11/5/2021
Quote: Originally posted by David Klyne on 17/4/2021
HD has surely been the future for some time now? One option might be to buy a TV with a built in satellite receiver Avtex/Cello? I think it excellent that ITV are converting their local stations to HD, just wish the BBC would do the same!

David



The issue that impacts some is nothing to do with gaining HD, but losing SD.
For those of us that care for the planet, it is depressing to be dismissed with buy a TV with an HD satellite decoder, plus the junking of otherwise usable TVs and stand alone decoders.
I does not stop there, it significantly impacts on the amount of data storage needed for recorded content. Along with that, it screws up the use of USB memory sticks for files over 4 GB, easily swamped by even an F1 race in HD format. Anything over 4 GB has to be stitched into multiple files.

Great that technology marches on, and this of value with devices able display it, just a shame they choose to make existing kit obsolete with the premature negative environmental impact that forces.





Got to agree with you JTQU.

I'll usually opt to record programs on my home sat box in SD rather than HD format to make best use of disc space for one thing. I don't find the difference in quality sufficient to drive me unquestionably to HD!

When in the caravan, the image on a 21" or so TV is perfectly adequate in SD and barely noticeably better in HD, and as mentioned recording to a USB stick is only really sensible in SD!

I don't like this attitude of throwing away and replacing perfectly functional equipment for 'political' or commercially driven reasons. It's not that I can't afford new equipment, it's that I'm not dissatisfied with the old stuff! We seem to be forced more and more frequently to 'upgrade' for the sake of 'technical' improvements that are barely beneficial to the user and positively harmful to the planet. I'm certainly not a tech-chaser who must have the latest equipment!


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It is not worth using HD on a screen under 32" as the difference is unnoticeable.
We were thinking of buying a new TV a while back. Looked in a number of shops, but it appears whereas we have one piece of equipment that delivers the picture and good sound, we would now need a TV unit for the picture and then a set of speakers for the sound. We are keeping the old TV. I have a freeview box that tunes HD signals and feeds them into my SD tv, so we will keep that going.


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thank you all for your input and comments,, but again---
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so ,if i get an HD sky box, will my old caravan telly work on it,think its SD only, but its an led one.?
stu
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thanks Stu

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As I said in my posting, I run an old SD TV from a freeview box which also receives HD signals.
The box is connected to the TV by an HDMI lead and I can watch either SD or HD transmissions through it. However, I do not have a skybox so can not speak for that but would imagine it would be much the same.



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