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01/5/2021 at 1:31pm
Location: London Outfit: Lunar Cosmos 524
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Quote: Originally posted by Mick S. on 01/5/2021
Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 28/4/2021
This was presumably May last year, langsettdave. You have my sympathy.
It does however illustrate what I have said many times about security devices. They are at best a deterrent, and will only ever deter the casual thief which is why often a cheap one can be every bit as good as the most expensive one. If someone is determined to steal a particular caravan or car, and comes equipped to do so, they will laugh at even the most elaborate and expensive security devices.
Why would you report something a year later? Unless it was 18th April it was swiped? I still read a very similar post, all the same. Just shows; if someone really wants your 'van, they will take it.
As an aside, has anyone ever heard of a 'van being stolen from one of the club sites in the UK, ever?
Oh yes! Maybe 3 years back now, a Hobby (not new, not fancy, not of 'great' worth, circa sub £20k maybe!) was stolen from the very secure club storage site where my van is stored. The thieves went to extraordinary lengths to steal this very specific van, they had obviously done their homework on both the storage site and security devices on this van. They gained access down a green lane beside the site, cut a section of tough steel palisade fencing out to gain entry to compound, removed the wheel locks from van, replaced the tow hitch with their own to overcome hitch lock (original hitch with lock intact was left behind!), broke open the site card/time controlled drop arm barrier AND the multiple padlocked locked gates to exit, then forced their way off the general site through the card controlled drop arm barrier. The last part was all done under scrutiny of CCTV, but because it was in the early hours and they were so quick after the alarm went up, the site wardens didn't have time to react before the thieves were virtually off the site. Police said three other Hobbys had been stolen on the same night in the general area! - no need to expand on the most likely culprits! AFAIK the van was never recovered!
It wasn't too long after I first got my van, and I'd gone to some lengths to find what appeared to be a good secure site, high security fencing, card and limited time access compound, wardens always on site and normal access covered by CCTV, didn't seem to be much more that could have been done. Insurers felt is was secure enough to give hefty discount. But clearly not enough to stop the determined thief! Somewhere around 500 storage pitches on site, and it's the only incident that I'm aware of, so I don't consider it a high risk location, even after the outrageous theft.
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02/5/2021 at 12:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Monty15 on 01/5/2021
Quote: Originally posted by Mick S. on 01/5/2021
Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 28/4/2021
This was presumably May last year, langsettdave. You have my sympathy.
It does however illustrate what I have said many times about security devices. They are at best a deterrent, and will only ever deter the casual thief which is why often a cheap one can be every bit as good as the most expensive one. If someone is determined to steal a particular caravan or car, and comes equipped to do so, they will laugh at even the most elaborate and expensive security devices.
Why would you report something a year later? Unless it was 18th April it was swiped? I still read a very similar post, all the same. Just shows; if someone really wants your 'van, they will take it.
As an aside, has anyone ever heard of a 'van being stolen from one of the club sites in the UK, ever?
Oh yes! Maybe 3 years back now, a Hobby (not new, not fancy, not of 'great' worth, circa sub £20k maybe!) was stolen from the very secure club storage site where my van is stored. The thieves went to extraordinary lengths to steal this very specific van, they had obviously done their homework on both the storage site and security devices on this van. They gained access down a green lane beside the site, cut a section of tough steel palisade fencing out to gain entry to compound, removed the wheel locks from van, replaced the tow hitch with their own to overcome hitch lock (original hitch with lock intact was left behind!), broke open the site card/time controlled drop arm barrier AND the multiple padlocked locked gates to exit, then forced their way off the general site through the card controlled drop arm barrier. The last part was all done under scrutiny of CCTV, but because it was in the early hours and they were so quick after the alarm went up, the site wardens didn't have time to react before the thieves were virtually off the site. Police said three other Hobbys had been stolen on the same night in the general area! - no need to expand on the most likely culprits! AFAIK the van was never recovered!
It wasn't too long after I first got my van, and I'd gone to some lengths to find what appeared to be a good secure site, high security fencing, card and limited time access compound, wardens always on site and normal access covered by CCTV, didn't seem to be much more that could have been done. Insurers felt is was secure enough to give hefty discount. But clearly not enough to stop the determined thief! Somewhere around 500 storage pitches on site, and it's the only incident that I'm aware of, so I don't consider it a high risk location, even after the outrageous theft.
I could have been clearer; i meant a club touring site. As in full of campers at the time. Has a van ever been cheekily hitched up and away in plain sight of the neighbours?
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