Home

   Log in or Register



Insurance Quotes
forums Campsite Search Comp Directory tips virtual brochure Profile
Tent and Awning Reviews Competitions Caravans and Motorhomes For Sale Shopping Diary Advent Calendar

Advertisement

Message Forums
Welcome Guest Register Login Search The Forum Posts Since Last Visit
 Reception - All Forums
  Caravans and Caravanning 		Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email  Printer Friendly Version Print
Subject Topic: Truma Ultrastore 450w Post Reply Post New Topic
Personjoeb1985
via mobile 05/5/2022 at 8:15am
 Location: 
 Outfit: None Entered View joeb1985's Profile View Profile   Reply to joeb1985 Reply   Quote joeb1985 Quote  
Joined: 03/5/2022

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   7
Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0


Hi, i have searched the forum here as well as others and cannot see a definitive answer to my problem. Like many who have the ultrastore water heater, they find that the nonreturn valve has either stuck open or has failed. Upon checking my system for the reason of the ultrastore emptying back into the Aquaroll. I can't seem to see a nonreturn valve on my system. I have attached pictures of my setup, if someone can confirm if i have a nonreturn valve and if not where should i fit one. I have replaced the electric heater due to the previous one being corroded (possibly from being on with no water).
The caravan is a 2001 ABI Sprinter 450CT

Thanks Joe


Persontonyv8power
via mobile 05/5/2022 at 9:09am
 Location: Herts. UK
 Outfit: Bailley Cartagena. Land Rover Discover View tonyv8power's Profile View Profile   Reply to tonyv8power Reply   Quote tonyv8power Quote  
Joined: 17/8/2015

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   269
Site Reviews Total: 1
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 1  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 8
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Hi Joe, in the centre of your picture, down a bit is what looks like a yellow toggle lever fitted to the blue pipe. If this is the same as the vans I've owned this is a drain valve, when the system is in use it should be facing down, IE in line with the pipe, not sitting upright. When it is upright it drains the system down. Sorry if you already know this.


Discounted Insurance Quotes for UKCampsite.co.uk visitors! Up to 12.5% off!
UKCampsite.co.uk users are rewarded with up to 12.5% off Caravan Guard touring caravan insurance, folding camper and trailer tent insurance, and 5% off motorhome and campervan insurance. Static caravan insurance is also available. Get an online quote now

Personjoeb1985
via mobile 05/5/2022 at 9:49am
 Location: 
 Outfit: None Entered View joeb1985's Profile View Profile   Reply to joeb1985 Reply   Quote joeb1985 Quote  
Joined: 03/5/2022

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   7
Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Hi, thanks for the reply, yes i've taken these photos since putting the van back into storage so put in drain postion for that. Thanks for the message though.


PersonMick S.
05/5/2022 at 2:38pm
 Location: 
 Outfit:  View Mick S.'s Profile View Profile   Reply to Mick S. Reply   Quote Mick S. Quote  
Joined: 18/8/2004

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3499
Site Reviews Total: 37
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 1  
Site Reviews 2022: 1  
Site Reviews 2021: 4  
Site Reviews 2020: 4  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 3
Site Nights 2022: 6
Site Nights 2021: 16
Site Nights 2020: 17
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Unless theres an NRV in the boiler, i dont think there is one in the pipe runs? So you are saying the water is reversing back down the pump tube into the barrel? I would have thought to be able to do this, there would have to be air getting in to allow it to back-syphon. Otherwise its airlocked. This sounds like a 'problem' ive personally never heard of before.


PersonPickled Onion
05/5/2022 at 5:16pm
 Location: Near Alton Towers
 Outfit: Bailey Burgundy S7 H View Pickled Onion's Profile View Profile   Reply to Pickled Onion Reply   Quote Pickled Onion Quote  
Joined: 23/2/2006

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3042
Site Reviews Total: 11
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 3  
Site Reviews 2021: 1  
Site Reviews 2020: 2  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 1  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 11
Site Nights 2021: 5
Site Nights 2020: 9
Site Nights 2019: 8
Site Nights 2018: 1
Hi Joe amd welcome to the forum. I don't see an on-board water pump so it's not inside there like on mine, therefore I assume it is the one in the aquaroll type. In that case I would be having a very close look at the fitting in the wall where the water comes into the van, there can be a non-return valve in there as part of the assembly. A small piece of detritis can get stuck in the flap and prevent it totally closing, you can often feel the pipe is warm as it syphons back from the heater.

Dave.

-------------
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day,
Teach a man to fish and you can get rid of him for a whole weekend.


Advertisement



PersonAncient Uncle
05/5/2022 at 6:11pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Coachman Festival View Ancient Uncle's Profile View Profile   Reply to Ancient Uncle Reply   Quote Ancient Uncle Quote  
Joined: 22/5/2017

Gold Member
Gold Member

Forum Posts:   479
Site Reviews Total: 5
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 3  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 34
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Could well be the inlet fitting on your exterior wall. I had a non return valve fail on one caravan and had to replace the wall fitting. Easy job to do.


Personjoeb1985
via mobile 05/5/2022 at 8:43pm
 Location: 
 Outfit: None Entered View joeb1985's Profile View Profile   Reply to joeb1985 Reply   Quote joeb1985 Quote  
Joined: 03/5/2022

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   7
Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Quote: Originally posted by Pickled Onion on 05/5/2022
Hi Joe amd welcome to the forum. I don't see an on-board water pump so it's not inside there like on mine, therefore I assume it is the one in the aquaroll type. In that case I would be having a very close look at the fitting in the wall where the water comes into the van, there can be a non-return valve in there as part of the assembly. A small piece of detritis can get stuck in the flap and prevent it totally closing, you can often feel the pipe is warm as it syphons back from the heater.

Dave.


Having just done a quick search of the water inlet (Whale ES1000) i see they do a service kit which has a "NRV" consisting of a piece of rubner that re-seats once the external pump has stopped pumping. I shall look into this and update.


PersonPickled Onion
06/5/2022 at 10:16am
 Location: Near Alton Towers
 Outfit: Bailey Burgundy S7 H View Pickled Onion's Profile View Profile   Reply to Pickled Onion Reply   Quote Pickled Onion Quote  
Joined: 23/2/2006

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3042
Site Reviews Total: 11
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 3  
Site Reviews 2021: 1  
Site Reviews 2020: 2  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 1  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 11
Site Nights 2021: 5
Site Nights 2020: 9
Site Nights 2019: 8
Site Nights 2018: 1
It's quite a complex box of tricks doing the water inlet, plus power to the pump, pressure switck and non-return valve functions.

From memory it looks like the unit we had in our Conway folding camper, it had the same trouble whilst in France. Our dealer talked me through dismantling it from the rear and removing a little bit of plastic detritus from the valve.

Dave.

-------------
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day,
Teach a man to fish and you can get rid of him for a whole weekend.


Personjoeb1985
via mobile 13/5/2022 at 10:32am
 Location: 
 Outfit: None Entered View joeb1985's Profile View Profile   Reply to joeb1985 Reply   Quote joeb1985 Quote  
Joined: 03/5/2022

Standard Member
Standard Member

Forum Posts:   7
Site Reviews Total: 0
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 0  
Site Reviews 2021: 0  
Site Reviews 2020: 0  
Site Reviews 2019: 0  
Site Reviews 2018: 0  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 0
Site Nights 2021: 0
Site Nights 2020: 0
Site Nights 2019: 0
Site Nights 2018: 0
Abit of an update to this, bought the service kit AK8834, then upon removing the center of the socket i noticed that where the "NRV" sits the actual web it sits in had perished making the valve not sit flush. Have ordered a new socket and hopefully should be problem solved.

Thanks


PersonPickled Onion
18/5/2022 at 9:02pm
 Location: Near Alton Towers
 Outfit: Bailey Burgundy S7 H View Pickled Onion's Profile View Profile   Reply to Pickled Onion Reply   Quote Pickled Onion Quote  
Joined: 23/2/2006

Diamond Member
Diamond Member

Forum Posts:   3042
Site Reviews Total: 11
Site Reviews 2024: 0  
Site Reviews 2023: 0  
Site Reviews 2022: 3  
Site Reviews 2021: 1  
Site Reviews 2020: 2  
Site Reviews 2019: 1  
Site Reviews 2018: 1  
Site Nights 2024: 0
Site Nights 2023: 0
Site Nights 2022: 11
Site Nights 2021: 5
Site Nights 2020: 9
Site Nights 2019: 8
Site Nights 2018: 1
Well done Joe and thanks for the update, it sounds like you have nailed the problem.

Dave.

-------------
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day,
Teach a man to fish and you can get rid of him for a whole weekend.



In order to post a reply you will need to register, or if already registered please log in here

Prev       Next
Quick Links - All Forums - Caravans and Caravanning - Top of Page

Printer Friendly Version Printable version      Share   Post on X / Twitter  Share on Facebook  Email


Latest News, Discounts and Competitions  see all...

4957 Visitors online !

Free UKCampsite.co.uk Window Sticker  -  Recommend to Friend  -  Add a Missing Campsite

[Message Forums]  [Caravan Sites & Camping]  [Company Listings]  [Features / Advice]  [Virtual Brochure]  [Shop!]
[Reception]  [Competitions]  [Caravans & Motorhomes For Sale]  [Event Diary]  [Contact Us]  [Tent Reviews] 



Please note we are not responsible for the content of external sites & any reviews represent the author's personal view only. Please report any error here. You may view our privacy and cookie policy and terms and conditions here. All copyrights & other intellectual property rights in the design and content of this web site are reserved to the UKCampsite.co.uk © 1999 - 2024


Advertisement
Advertisement


UKCampsite.co.uk
2024 Advent Calendar

Advent Calendar

24 Daily Prizes PLUS a Christmas Day Star Prize worth £999

Request a Reminder