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Subject Topic: Caravan Heating Costs - Gas Vs Electric
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16/2/2023 at 9:02am
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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 16/2/2023
Quote: Originally posted by Crypto on 16/2/2023
My electricity charges are £0.64 per kWh before the government discount which may or may not be continued.

Where does £0.34 per kWh come form?

That throws the whole calculation out.



Isn't the cost of a kwh capped at about £0.34. Anyone read that Centrica owner of BGAS have posted their biggest profits ever.



It's only capped for domestic use at that level. There is a new cap for commercial users, but I am not sure its at the same level.


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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 16/2/2023
Quote: Originally posted by saxo1 on 15/2/2023
You may need more ventilation with gas to avoid condensation.
saxo1



Why do you think that condensation will be any different if using gas instead of EHU in a caravan?

Fumes from the gas burning should be dispersed to the outside. Heat level is regulated by the occupier and it is heat meeting cool surfaces that causes condensation.


i was referring to a portable gas heater as the OP referred to a gas bottle I wasn't sure if they meant a fixed gas fire/heating system.
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16/2/2023 at 9:46am
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Sites (and other Landlords) are leagally required not to add a mark up and must sell the units at the 'rate they pay'. I think meters are a better way to do this if it has to be done at all. I am not keen on the prepaid cards that some sites sell, for example £5 per top up card, as there is no transparancy as to the kWh unit price you have to pay. With a meter at least it is clear. My site has just started charging 36p per kWh which they say is their buy in rate.

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16/2/2023 at 11:36am
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Quote: Originally posted by happycampus on 16/2/2023
Sites (and other Landlords) are leagally required not to add a mark up and must sell the units at the 'rate they pay'. I think meters are a better way to do this if it has to be done at all. I am not keen on the prepaid cards that some sites sell, for example £5 per top up card, as there is no transparancy as to the kWh unit price you have to pay. With a meter at least it is clear. My site has just started charging 36p per kWh which they say is their buy in rate.



In 2019 I stayed on a touring site that had pre-paid cards and it worked out just fine. You paid £10 for a card which you then inserted into the meter on your pitch. At the end of the stay you inserted the card into the meter again, pressed a button, and it downloaded any unused credit back onto the card. You then took the card to the office when you checked out and they refunded the money. after 2 weeks stay we got £7.20 back!

By using the card system there was never any money in the meter to get stolen. A foolproof system I thought. If they charged more than the appropriate rate you would have a claim against them.


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16/2/2023 at 12:45pm
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Quote: Originally posted by happycampus on 16/2/2023
Sites (and other Landlords) are leagally required not to add a mark up and must sell the units at the 'rate they pay'. I think meters are a better way to do this if it has to be done at all. I am not keen on the prepaid cards that some sites sell, for example £5 per top up card, as there is no transparancy as to the kWh unit price you have to pay. With a meter at least it is clear. My site has just started charging 36p per kWh which they say is their buy in rate.



Many legal ways around this restriction i.e. £10 extra per night for EHU etc.


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16/2/2023 at 2:07pm
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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 16/2/2023
Quote: Originally posted by happycampus on 16/2/2023
Sites (and other Landlords) are leagally required not to add a mark up and must sell the units at the 'rate they pay'. I think meters are a better way to do this if it has to be done at all. I am not keen on the prepaid cards that some sites sell, for example £5 per top up card, as there is no transparancy as to the kWh unit price you have to pay. With a meter at least it is clear. My site has just started charging 36p per kWh which they say is their buy in rate.



Many legal ways around this restriction i.e. £10 extra per night for EHU etc.



That is exactly what most sites seem to do these days. Absolute rip-off! Charging per night more than most people would use in 2 weeks.


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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 16/2/2023
Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 16/2/2023
Quote: Originally posted by happycampus on 16/2/2023
Sites (and other Landlords) are leagally required not to add a mark up and must sell the units at the 'rate they pay'. I think meters are a better way to do this if it has to be done at all. I am not keen on the prepaid cards that some sites sell, for example £5 per top up card, as there is no transparancy as to the kWh unit price you have to pay. With a meter at least it is clear. My site has just started charging 36p per kWh which they say is their buy in rate.



Many legal ways around this restriction i.e. £10 extra per night for EHU etc.



That is exactly what most sites seem to do these days. Absolute rip-off! Charging per night more than most people would use in 2 weeks.





That would be a challenging conversation to have


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17/2/2023 at 10:36am
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 16/2/2023
That is exactly what most sites seem to do these days. Absolute rip-off! Charging per night more than most people would use in 2 weeks.



If cost per kwh is a minimum of £0.70p for a commercial site that means you need to be using only 1.42kwh per day. Probably not even enough to cook your dinner once a day in the microwave?


17/2/2023 at 11:53am
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Quote: Originally posted by iank01 on 17/2/2023
Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 16/2/2023
That is exactly what most sites seem to do these days. Absolute rip-off! Charging per night more than most people would use in 2 weeks.



If cost per kwh is a minimum of £0.70p for a commercial site that means you need to be using only 1.42kwh per day. Probably not even enough to cook your dinner once a day in the microwave?



An 800W microwave draws about 1kW. 12mins is 0.2kWh.

12Mins in an 800w microwave is enough to set a meal on fire - let alone cook it!

But yes - 1.42kWh per day is not much, especially if you are running the heating or heating water for a shower or washing up.




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Quote: Originally posted by Ancient Uncle on 14/2/2023
Apart from the actual cost, I consider electric heating to be safer as there is no risk of nasty fumes.



Not sure where the fumes would come from. At the very worst; the old fires used to smell if they hadnt been used in a while. But that was on gas or leccy. If you have an appliance thats kicking out 'fumes', it wants checking.

On the subject of site costs; last year we were on a metered site in Devon, where we had a fivers worth of leccy in the pitch fee. The owner went to great length to ensure we knew we would have to pay for anything over the fiver.
We used about 3.80 for 5 nights. Strangely - given i was technically 'owed money', the owner didnt bring this up when we left.


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17/2/2023 at 4:49pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Mick S. on 17/2/2023
Quote: Originally posted by Ancient Uncle on 14/2/2023
Apart from the actual cost, I consider electric heating to be safer as there is no risk of nasty fumes.



Not sure where the fumes would come from. At the very worst; the old fires used to smell if they hadnt been used in a while. But that was on gas or leccy. If you have an appliance thats kicking out 'fumes', it wants checking.



When burning gas there is always a risk of producing dangerous fumes.

Of course, any heater, gas or electric, will burn off dust if unused for some time and you will certainly smell that, but electric heating is simply a heated element whereas gas heating requires a flame.

Agreed, any gas heater producing such fumes needs checking and maintenance, always assuming you survive the incident to have it checked.



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