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Subject Topic: Caravan Tipping & Tight 13 Pin Connector
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via mobile 26/12/2024 at 2:10am
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Hi there the Admiral I have a pheonix 2 berth, and mine is the same! With nothing packed in the rear, it is VERY easy to make it sit up! When I'm connecting the motor mover I have to leave hitched to the car so I can go inside to put the mover key in. Never had a problem with any other caravan I've had! It tows brilliant but just seems a**e heavy!

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Quote: Originally posted by bridgie on 26/12/2024
Hi there the Admiral I have a pheonix 2 berth, and mine is the same! With nothing packed in the rear, it is VERY easy to make it sit up! When I'm connecting the motor mover I have to leave hitched to the car so I can go inside to put the mover key in. Never had a problem with any other caravan I've had! It tows brilliant but just seems a**e heavy!



I think most caravans will tip up if you step inside without the corner steadies down or it still hitched to the car. Provided the entry door is at the rear of course. I know mine certainly would.


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Adria might be the only manufacturer that has done something about this tipping issue.

They created a heavy gauge metal bump stop in both back corners so that if you go to the back of the van without steadies down and it tips up it hits the stops and not crashes the rear panel into the ground.
A simple but good idea methinks.

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31/12/2024 at 1:20pm
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Quote: Originally posted by blueexpo97 on 31/12/2024
Adria might be the only manufacturer that has done something about this tipping issue.

They created a heavy gauge metal bump stop in both back corners so that if you go to the back of the van without steadies down and it tips up it hits the stops and not crashes the rear panel into the ground.
A simple but good idea methinks.



Yes that does sound like a good idea. It would certainly help those whose main entry door is at the front like my previous caravan. With our current one with the door near the back, you can't get inside without it tipping if the steadies aren't down.


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31/12/2024 at 3:55pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Squillian on 26/12/2024
Quote: Originally posted by bridgie on 26/12/2024
Hi there the Admiral I have a pheonix 2 berth, and mine is the same! With nothing packed in the rear, it is VERY easy to make it sit up! When I'm connecting the motor mover I have to leave hitched to the car so I can go inside to put the mover key in. Never had a problem with any other caravan I've had! It tows brilliant but just seems a**e heavy!



I think most caravans will tip up if you step inside without the corner steadies down or it still hitched to the car. Provided the entry door is at the rear of course. I know mine certainly would.




Considering my target nose weight is 70Kg (to suit car/towbar), I can take my near 90Kg bulk into the rear bathroom without a hint of see-sawing (unhitched, no steadies down)! Guessing axle is not centrally placed between hitch and rear, and/or the nose is heavy until I fully load the van! The entrance door is well behind the axle and just ahead of the bathroom, but even when van loaded correctly to get right nose weight, I can still go in the van without it tipping, but I'm mindful NOT to push my luck and go to very rear of bathroom!

The vast difference in 'balance' between vans just serves to make me more aware of the importance of actually measuring the nose weight to ensure it's correct for towing! I've got a well practiced 'standard' loading pattern for my van that gives me the right nose weight, but it took a bit of juggling of loads to get it right when starting out.


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Yes Monty, that's what I do. Everything I take has its designated place to maintain correct noseweight. My caravan isn't very big, its body length is only about 14 feet, and the door is quite near the rear. I know from experience that if I step inside without putting at least one rear steady down it will tip even when correctly loaded. Maybe my 95kg bulk has something to do with it.

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