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yep sorry "chalkie 56 " michael is right ive just re-read the table and its only cars registered after budget day 23 march , that the £215 quid applies to.

so i bet you will see 4x4s on dealer forcourts pre 1 march, saying "cheap road tax"

stu.

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If it makes you all feel better the road tax here in Ireland for my Discovery & Defender is £600 each !!!------------------------------------------

so how much is fuel in ireland then.

stu.

Stu - about 72p a litre.

The biggest expense though is now having to pay approx £1100 to Irish Ferries to get us to France for our annual holiday. One thing we took for granted before moving to Ireland were the cheap ferry crossings.

Marcus

just coppied this from my posting on the "road tax increaces" thread as a matter of interest.

another hidden fact, not mentioned anywhere at all, is that the tax on motorcycles over 600cc, has gone up by £2. so how is that favouring the "greener" vehicles, emissions on most bikes is next to nowt, its not even part of the mot. so how have the small car owners benefited. and us bikers are prejudiced same as 4x4s, its because we ase minority groups and cant shout loud enough.

stu.

What you lot a forgeting is there are a hell of a lot of cars which work out cheaper, mine is down significantly.

Stop moaning !

Yes indeed a lost opportunity.

Road tax on 4x4s should have been at least doubled, Brown would have taken it on the chin, but at least his "green" credentials would have stood the test.

A sobering thought.

The worlds estimated oil reserves are 1000 billion barrels.

There are six billion people in the world today.

This is only 7000 gallons per person.

When it's gone it's gone.

A return trip to Austraila takes over 300 gallons of oil per person.

My trip to Longleat takes only 6 gallons per person.

Caravanning makes sense.

Mr Ulti-Mate

now thats verry big of you,"ultimates" again youre one of those that is singling out 4x4s instead of focusing on co2 emissions

id be interested to know how your MONDEO TDCI ESTATE compares

seeing as its a company car "as stated in one of your earlier posts. and you probably dont have to pay the road tax yourself.

very hipocritical view.

stu.

Not really Stu you have got me (and the problem) wrong.

You call me a hipocrite...do you actually know the meaning of the word?

Yes I drive a company car (and pay for it in my tax code).

My Mondeo achieves a genuine 49 average mpg.

I pay for all my private mileage myself.

I do not undersatnd how this makes me a hipocrite...perhaps you would like to justify this to the forum or perhaps apologise...(which I would of course willingly accept)

regards

David

i agree with all the lower parts of your post, about oil reserves, longleat etc.

its just that you let go with both barrels directly at 4x4s, for no apparent reason.

as i said before the co2 emissions should be on your v 5 log book so what band does  your mondeo fit into.

i would think it would be the same one as many 4x4s.

seeing as some new astras and even minis go in the higher band.

stu

Thanks Stu,

My Mondeo is in the 156 gm category. I drive about 4000 miles a year on "private" trips.

To some extent it is indeed the manufacturer's who are marketing the heavier vans ...perhaps to cash in with the "top end" caravanners.

If vans could be made lighter ( a bit difficult to see how) whilst still giving us our fixed bed end bathroom walk in showers etc, the choice of tow car would be much easier and folk could decide if they were happier with the 49 mpg from their Mondeo or did really need a 4x4 just for four weeks towing a year.

regards

Mr Ulti-Mate