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26/4/2006 at 2:11pm
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The rear near-side brake on my car has started sticking on occasionally. This is caused by the (hand-brake operated) lever on the rear caliper starting to seize up and is apparently a somewhat common failure on my make of car.
Replacement of the whole caliper is recommended, and the Haynes workshop manual says calipers should be replaced as a pair - at £175 each, a rather expensive job as I plan on changing the car later this year - this is just the price for the part, doing the job myself!
Is it really necessary to replace both calipers if this the only fault? The pistons, seals etc appear OK otherwise, but safety does come first, so if I have to pay, so be it, but £175 each for four or five months......
What does everybody think (or know)?

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26/4/2006 at 2:31pm
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If it was my car my first move would be to remove the offending caliper and have it in bits, cleaning and lubricating all the moving parts in the hope I could make it last another few months. That's what I'd do before shelling out £175 anyway... And despite what the doom and gloom brigade of experts might say, I would only replace the one caliper if only one of them is faulty.

Cheers, Simon H



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26/4/2006 at 2:37pm
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Hi Gram

I take it that the rear brakes are disc brakes then and not drums. In any case it may as Simon says become gunged up with brake dust over the years and a good dismantle and clean with brake cleaner and lube with antiseize grease may solve the problem. Its always the nearside brakes that wear out first because they are the ones nearest the road drains getting all manner of s**t thrown into them.

Jon

 



26/4/2006 at 4:26pm
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What car is it


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bet it a vauxhall, as its a common thing for them to do this


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26/4/2006 at 4:51pm
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I would strip the caliper , clean it and replace the seals .

atb

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26/4/2006 at 5:40pm
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Quote: Originally posted by guzgog on 26/4/2006
What car is it

Mazda 626; apparently (according to the web) this problem with the handbrake activation lever on the caliper usually occurs round the 55000 mile mark - mine's done 81000, so perhaps I've been lucky ; as the Ford Probe also uses the same running gear, it happens to them as well....
I've also got a quote of £53 each from a breaker's yard, so maybe...

Gram

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26/4/2006 at 5:48pm
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Gram, I'm not sure where you are but I recently contacted our local Mazda dealer for a price for a rear caliper for a 1998 323Zxi - must be similar to yours? They came back with a price similar to your quote BUT, they said they could do a massive discount if I wanted to order one. (I never took it any further, it was just an exploratory enquiry). That was JCT 600 in Bradford.

Hope that helps a bit

Cheers, Simon H



26/4/2006 at 6:01pm
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give japanese car parts a call theres bound to be one near you, they are quite cheap on brake and clutch parts for jap cars.

being a mazda trained technician ive done quite a few stripdowns of these calipers and they have a spring inside that shears and wont release the caliper tidy, then the moisture in your brake fluid rusts the cam into one place.

as for replacing them both theres no need, if it were discs or pads then yes but not the calipers.......hope this helps

 

oh and btw i have worked  for vauxhall for some time now and have never changed a caliper yet :P.........................its usually the car that falls to bits and the calipers are ok..............LOL



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26/4/2006 at 6:26pm
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Thanks for the advice and suggestions; I'm feeling much more cheerful now!
Trixama - as you say re discs and pads; I've always replaced shoes and pads as sets (nearside and offside) as that always seemed wisest and safest to me, but I wondered if I might "get away with it" in regards to the calipers - after all, as the dealers quote prices each rather than pairs.....
The main thing is, as long as the car will stop - that's more important than whether it will go...

Hey - Vauxhalls - I've had three of those, all great and the last one I had for twelve years - never had a car that long before!

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26/4/2006 at 7:12pm
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gram

if the on caliper is ok then just change the siezed one, as long as they both work ok for the mot (ie nearly the same amount on each wheel) i wouldnt worry



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27/4/2006 at 7:55pm
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As a mechanic, I can assure you that it is not nesessary to replace both calipers, but i would advise you to replace the pads on both wheels.

 



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27/4/2006 at 10:29pm
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Once again, thanks for the info and advice; I'm now going for the 'one only' option - when I contacted the breakers that I mentioned ('Japanese Car Breakers' in Birmingham) it turns out that they didn't have a pair available anyway, despite their claims and promises! Only one on hand, and they were "expecting another in in the next few days...." - fortunately the one they did have was the side I needed (and in satisfactory condition), so I had that one - even then, they tried to charge me more than what they quoted originally, but fortunately it was an email quote that I had printed off, so they couldn't argue!
Now I just need the weather to stay right for weekend to put it on!

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08/5/2006 at 1:40am
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I had the same problem on a motorcycle that handt been used for 15 years,a good clean sorted it.

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