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05/6/2006 at 11:01am
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Hi, does any one have any advice for me about the Avondale Dart? We are looking for our first tourer with fixed bunks. Also looking at Bailey Ranger and Sprite Quattro. Any advice most appreciated. Would the Quattro be worth the extra 2,500? Also any advice for the purchase of an awning. Looking for strong large and most importantly easy to put up - for sake of the marriage. Thanks.


05/6/2006 at 1:12pm
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Avondales have a bad reputation for panels cracking.


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05/6/2006 at 4:18pm
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I thought the panels cracking was on Argente models & not the dart ? I owned a dart from new till 3 years old & have good memories of many enjoyable trips with it . However after 3 years the floor needed repairing for delamination around where the underfloor spare wheel fits . I was told this is quite a common fault by the dealer ?The only other problem was concerning the pressurised water system it was a nightmate to get set up correctly & forever needed small adjustments to the pressure switch to stop it from clicking on & off . In 3 years i replaced the pump twice !

The bailey is a well priced competitor but the furnishings seem cheaper & the cushions aren't quite as comfy as the darts . The Quattro is quite a lot bigger ( both wider & longer & heavier ) . Its the one i'd go for providing your tow car is up to the job ? I must warn you I'm a bit biased i have the Abbey 340 which the quattro is based on , for a family of 5 its probably one of the best layouts I've come across, both the bailey & avondale feel a lot narrower by comparison.



05/6/2006 at 6:20pm
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Thanks for that, if the purse strings allow the quattro gets my vote for the end bathroom alone. Can't wait to get started but feel a little daunted!


05/6/2006 at 7:26pm
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Yes Jo , I know what you mean every other caravan ive owned has always had the cramped side bathroom layout . With the end bathroom you've got plenty of elbow room . Just make sure the weight of the van is within the capabilities of your car !



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20/6/2006 at 7:24am
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We wouldnt recommend an Avondale to anyone - after it being returned to the manufacturer twice, for repairs and then repairs to the repairs and further damage done whilst repairing it!!!  Finally after struggling for 3 years to get it all sorted we have managed to part exchange the caravan to a dealer who gave us a fair price and is going to sort all the problems out himself, and getting a settlement from the dealer who sold it to us originally, (yes they do pay up if you keep on at them) we have now got a Sterling Eccles Elite Searcher, which you can tell instantly is far better quality and worth every penny for peace of mind. .


20/6/2006 at 5:54pm
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Heard alot of bad things about Avondales and i know several people who have had problems with them.  Although i don't have one but have you looked at the Lunar Zenith this also has fixed bunks.  We looked at that one before and it seems nice although not sure about the build quality, maybe someone on here has one and could comment


20/6/2006 at 7:18pm
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Don't get too hung up on people having problems with a particular make of caravan-if you look around someone will have had a problem with them all. Over on practical caravan's forum a few people are reporting the wheel wearing through the wheel arch on some Lunar & Bailey models !! We have had a Dart for 9 months now so it's probably not had time to develop any faults but we are pleased with it it's comfortable, tows fine & is light for it's size.A lot of the small faults probably come down to the dealer not picking them up on the PDI & the big faults probably are down to Generic parts used by all manufacturers. After all- they all use 1 of 2 chassis manufacturers, the floors are just a few bits of plywood & insulation glued together & I would imagine they get the outer skins cobbled together by some plastics firm & nail all the bits together & flog them off to us mugs!! Like I say you will get some one who has a bad experience with a certain caravan & others who don't- (I might be on here myself upset about "The Dartful Dodger" leaking or whatever in a few months, hope that's not tempting fate). So-although it's good to be informed, don't buy a caravan you don't like just because someone got a bad one of the model you do like. After all you should hopefully be spending along time in him once you've got him...

See you all soon Bernard.

P.S. we have only had him 9 months but we used him all winter & had no probs-probably spent around 40-45 nights in him so far & towed him around 4000 miles so that should show any teething troubles up.



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20/6/2006 at 9:06pm
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Him?


20/6/2006 at 11:12pm
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Errrrrrrrrr - yes-He's a "him"- are they not all "him's or her's", or am I even stranger than I thought?? Maybe I have got that Tattoo !!! Youv'e got me worried now shooie !!!!

See you all soon, Bernard.



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20/6/2006 at 11:16pm
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Quote: Originally posted by junezhubby on 20/6/2006

Don't get too hung up on people having problems with a particular make of caravan-if you look around someone will have had a problem with them all. Over on practical caravan's forum a few people are reporting the wheel wearing through the wheel arch on some Lunar & Bailey models !! We have had a Dart for 9 months now so it's probably not had time to develop any faults but we are pleased with it it's comfortable, tows fine & is light for it's size.A lot of the small faults probably come down to the dealer not picking them up on the PDI & the big faults probably are down to Generic parts used by all manufacturers. After all- they all use 1 of 2 chassis manufacturers, the floors are just a few bits of plywood & insulation glued together & I would imagine they get the outer skins cobbled together by some plastics firm & nail all the bits together & flog them off to us mugs!! Like I say you will get some one who has a bad experience with a certain caravan & others who don't- (I might be on here myself upset about "The Dartful Dodger" leaking or whatever in a few months, hope that's not tempting fate). So-although it's good to be informed, don't buy a caravan you don't like just because someone got a bad one of the model you do like. After all you should hopefully be spending along time in him once you've got him...

See you all soon Bernard.

P.S. we have only had him 9 months but we used him all winter & had no probs-probably spent around 40-45 nights in him so far & towed him around 4000 miles so that should show any teething troubles up.


Nice objective response Bernard and happy days with the Dart, we had the 556 until it was nicked off the drive, just after its 1st service.

The problems with the Avondales are real, in significant numbers and should be looked out for when purchasing either a new or 2nd hand van. I'm sure there are faults with all other makes of van and hopefully these will be highlighted on the various related websites, so at the very least people are made aware.

After experiencing a cracked rear panel on the Dart, cured by the theft of the van may I add, we bought an Argente and guess what.....................it goes to the dealers next Monday for a replacement front panel.

I'm sure it will be the same plastics firm that produces the panels for most vans but the problem with the Avondales is with the fitting of the panel and not the panel itself. Bad workmanship I'm afraid. 

That said, it's a great van to have in all other respects and the few additional minor problems we had were sorted at the time of the 1st service, they were things we could and did live with for 12 months and definitely didn't warrant the return trip to the dealers to have them sorted any sooner.

For info, our dealer has stopped selling Avondales due to the problems they have had over the past few years but continues to service them for his existing customers. Read into that what you will. In my view the dealer has made all the difference in our experience of Avondale and because of this I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of buying another, even after the problems we have had.

You can either get on with your caravan travels and have any problems sorted at the time of most convenience to yourself or you can get yourself really stressed by a problem and let it ruin your holidays for weeks or even months on end. We never let problems ruin our outings, there's always a quick fix and if all else fails......do without for a while.

Mick




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