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Subject Topic: Weight of contents - is this OK? Post Reply Post New Topic
PersonAndy R
17/8/2006 at 1:16pm
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I'm working out my weights and reckon that with the caravan I plan to buy, when fully packed, I will be pretty close to the gross train weight for my car (the towing ratio is around 80%, noseweight is fine, and engine size/power is fine - 1.9 diesel).   I have been advised that this should all be OK as long as I don't go above the gross train weight.   What I really need to know is how realistic my calculations are for the car + van contents.

So far, the combination below will take me up to 15Kg of my gross train weight.   Have I missed anything (I don't plan to take a TV)?   Have I under or over estimated any weights below.   Your comments very gratefully received, thanks...

items                                                                             weight in Kg

clothes & toiletries for 2 adults & 2 children 50
awning 45
jack 1.5
leisure battery 16.5
spare wheel 14
fire extinguisher 1
water carrier 3.2
waste water container 1
step 1
hitch lock 5
wheel clamp 5.5
chairs - 4 aluminium 6
gas x2 Gas Light 5Kg cylinders 16
crockery, cutlery, pans etc 5
levelling blocks 2
torque wrench 1
food 2
bedding 20
total contents 195.7

 


PersonPCI75
17/8/2006 at 3:36pm
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Item KG
Full Awning and Poles 40.0
Porch Awning and Poles 20.0
Jack and Winding handle 2.5
60 Ampere/hour battery 16.5
Noseweight Gauge 1.0
10" Portable Television 8.0
Portable Radio Cassette 2.0
Television Aerial (outside) 1.0
Roll-a-long Water Carrier and handle 3.2
Waste Water Container 1.0
Fire Extinguisher 1.5
Caravan Step 3.0
Mains Extension Lead 20/25metres 5.0
Heavy Duty Hitchlock 6.0
Heavy Duty Wheelclamp 15.0
2 x 7kg LPG Cylinders 30.0
Chemical Toilet (empty) and chemicals 6.0
Water - per litre 1.0
Torque Wrench 1.2
Sunlounger (metal frame) 5.0
Folding Deck Chair (alloy/steel frame) 1.5/3.0
Picnic Table 6.0
Wood Levelling Ramp 4.0
Pots, pans, crockery etc. for four persons 8.0
Sleeping bag and bed linen (per person) 6.0
Clothing & shoes (per person) for 1 week 15.0

The weights in the above list are all approximate.
The best way to weigh items is on a set of bathroom scales. When weighing clothes place them in a box or crate and subtract the weight of the box or crate from the total.



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Personpinkfloyd
17/8/2006 at 4:27pm
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Hi, May I suggest to you when you buy the new caravan, load it up correctly and take it to your nearest weighbridge. Weigh the caravan, then the car (empty but with a full tank of fuel) and work out the difference. The ideal weight of the fully laden caravan should not exceed 85% of the car's kerbweight.Never load the caravan above the gross permissable weight or you could be in trouble towing, or even worse if the police weigh your van you could face a hefty fine. I know people who have had this problem! Some things can be left at home to help keep weights down....take only one gas bottle, use a lightweight step, heavy duty wheelclamp can stay at home if you use a hitchlock...etc...etc....Floyd.


Personjennifernn
17/8/2006 at 5:19pm
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I think your clothing and toiletries allowance is a little low, depends how long you are going for, does that  include towels and shoes?   Food 2kg?  A bit unrealistic possibly.   What about toys and books etc?  You list 4 chairs but no table, are you going to use the caravan one?  Does the weight of the van already include the EHU cable?

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Jennifer


Personmichael
17/8/2006 at 6:03pm
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spare wheel 14

check here may be 19 kgs according to bailey[:o)]

Wrap around seats including modified base cushions Chest of drawers with fold out table Spare wheel & tyre Remi-top sunroof
500/5 15 STD 15 STD
Optional Equipment Payload Allowance 4.0kg 13.6kg 19.0kg 10.0kg
PRICE:
(inc VAT at 17.5%)		 £225 £245 £95 £310



Post last edited on 17/08/2006 20:47:05

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PersonAndy R
18/8/2006 at 2:41pm
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Thanks for your help everyone.   Sadly my conclusion is that it's just not going to be possible to tow anything decent with a Renault Grand Scenic.   If only I'd been able to look into the future when I bought it new a year ago - had no intention of getting a caravan then at all!

The saving for a caravan AND a car starts now!  



Personjennifernn
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What a shame!   Are you sure you need an awning?  That would save a bit of weight.

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Jennifer


PersonMrs. Bonce
18/8/2006 at 5:17pm
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Our spare wheel fits in the shower perfectly (end washroom) and this helped when we were towing with our 2 ltr Mondeo. Now have a 4ltr 4x4 (I know, but we got it cheap, just as well because of the fuel consumption!


PersonPeteDeFeet
18/8/2006 at 6:59pm
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YOU'VE FORGOTEN THE BEER ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !  Leave the wife's clothes behind - that'll save 40kg 


PersonIvana Tinkle
19/8/2006 at 12:49pm
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Cant you shop around for a lighter van? they do seem to vary a lot



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