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26/10/2006 at 3:06pm
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We were on a site in Devon a few months ago and we watched a man next to us making his orange cable look very neat by coiling it in a circle. I said to my wife "should I tell him ? " but she thought that not every one would like being told that was not the way to do things ,so I did nothing. A few hours later when it had started raining and I think the couple next to us must have been cooking with the electric ring on the cooker and we could see that they had the TV on, I noticed that their cable was steaming. I did at this point go round and knock on the door. I said to this very jolly caravanner. " Did you know that your cable is steaming ?" he did not, and we both put our hands on the cable and it was not hot ,but warm. I told him that I got my expertise on cables in a yacht club bar a few years ago, chatting to an electrical engineer as one does in a bar. The talk became very cablely, he said you should never coil a cable that is going to have any power going through it as it does just what it says on the tin ,it turns into a coil and these get very warm. My friend Stewart in the bar said that cables used in this way will over time become brittle. He said all you have to do is lay the spare cable down in a figure of eight or just put it on the floor any old way but not in a coil. The very nice chap next door asked us in for a glass of wine and said perhaps he should visit more bars and he might become as" expert as I am ".  I have not mentioned  Caravan Extendabed once.



26/10/2006 at 3:34pm
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Thats how the make electric fire elements isn't it by wrapping it around the bar.?


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26/10/2006 at 3:39pm
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Blimey you are taking me back to school days now and science lessons! 

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26/10/2006 at 3:47pm
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this is something you seee time a nd time again, I have also mentioned it to several caravanners, who seem most surprised when you explain the potenial problem they could face.

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26/10/2006 at 3:49pm
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I know people chuckle at OH and I 'cos we always lay our cable out neatly in a zig-zag fashion alonside the van.  Unfortunately there are too many campers and caravanners who just stuff any spare cable under their van in an untidy tangled heap.  The cable will get warm but I wonder if there has ever been a fire?

Hazel



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26/10/2006 at 3:50pm
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This is why the extension leads which you can wind up inside the holder( I think JoJo? is one particular brand) state on the casing "unwind cable fully before use". We had a similar experience once whilst sat in a friends awning one evening with the fan heater on. We could smell an electrical/ plasticky smell and realised that our friend( who works for the local electric company) hadn't unwound the extension lead first. To say it got hot is an understatement,it was simply too hot to touch. If I remember right it even tripped out on a thermal trip out switch inside the casing. Needless to say I now always ensure that the cable is fully wound out before use.


26/10/2006 at 3:50pm
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You're quite right, Chris, often see hook up cables a million metres long in a neat coil under a van, not a good idea. Personally, I carry 2 short ones of 10 metres  each and hook them together if needed which isn't very often.

As much as I admire your unmentionable, I must admit I made my own a couple of years ago. Having a 4 berth with side dinette and only being 2 of us, I removed the top bunk and upholstery from the side and constructed a very similar article to give a single bunk at the side which takes a 2' 6" inflatable. So I now use the bunk and oh has front double to herself. Plans are afoot, however, for a 4 berth with 2 singles at the front allowing us to leave them made up and use the side dinette....Mick



26/10/2006 at 4:44pm
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yeah My grandad taught me this when we started caravanning, the looks we get when we unravel our hook up lead into a messy state and throw it under the caravan !!!

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26/10/2006 at 5:32pm
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I know it all

The other day I had the fan heater and my 50ft cable drying a spillage.

I omitted to unwind the excess cable.

When I returned to it a little while later the cable was nearly as hot as the fan heater.

I have two cables for the van ---a long one and one 1/2 as long

I try to use the shorter one so that there isn't too much randomly arranged excess cable making our pristine pitch look untidy.

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26/10/2006 at 8:09pm
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John, likewise, I also know it all. After 50 years of driving diesels, yesterday I filled my car with petrol and had to call recovery to fetch me home. Says it all doesn't it.

Mick



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26/10/2006 at 9:28pm
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27/10/2006 at 1:38pm
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Quote: Originally posted by mickeyb on 26/10/2006

John, likewise, I also know it all. After 50 years of driving diesels, yesterday I filled my car with petrol and had to call recovery to fetch me home. Says it all doesn't it.

Mick


I'm terrified of doing that!  We put red "diesel" stickers on the petrol cap and the inside of the flap because we've got one diesel and one petrol car and one day one of us is going to get it wrong!

The electric cable thing goes for the vacuum cleaner, too, I think - don't just unwind what you need.

Nora



27/10/2006 at 1:47pm
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Electric fire wires are made for coiling, they are meant to produce heat, caravan hook up cables aren't. I'll stay with the funny looks as I play zig zag under the van. Keeps my joints working and also gets you talkng with your neighbours which is nice.



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27/10/2006 at 3:00pm
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Petrol in diesel tank--been there done that got the T shirt. Also I did know about uncoiling the cable but I havent a clue where I learnt it.

Robin 



27/10/2006 at 4:33pm
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I was always told to pay the cable out and NEVER leave it coiled up or even in a tangled mess under the 'van.

Vic



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