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Topic: Size matters.....when buying next caravan
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28/10/2006 at 11:55pm
Location: Cardiff Outfit: Lunar Ariva GT
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We are having to change our Abbey/Cosalt Clubman which fits perfectly beside our house, though I am finding modern caravans all seem to be much wider than it.
I measure it at roughly 2.01 metres across the front, though the official width is 2.08, which I assume includes windows as well.
Can anyone advise me of any modern or past caravan that would be similar in width?
Storage is not an option due to finances, so we really are restricted by this factor when seeking a replacement for ours.
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29/10/2006 at 9:05am
Location: None Entered Outfit: Swift Challenger Sport 524 VW Carave
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I have previously commented about the manufacturers' obsession for making ever larger vans. Apart from your problem of home storage (our son will hit the same problem when he next updates), most campsites are down narrow, winding roads.
My last van was 2.16 M wide, whereas our new one is 2.23 M wide. We would have been just as happy with the new one if it had been 2.1 M wide.
I think the increase in width is connected with the craze for fixed bed at rear. Frankly, I can never see myself buying a fixed bed model; its a shear waste of space for us. End bathroom and long twin bunks are, for us, the best arrangement. All opinions have to be satisfied, of course, but the manufacturers could still make the narrower models where no fixed beds are involved. As in the case of Jane Coles, they could be designing people out of the market.
Bertie.
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29/10/2006 at 1:31pm
Location: KENT Outfit: BAILEY PEGASUS 534 DIESEL HONDA CRV
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I think it was the Lunar Ariva we saw at the NEC that was narrower, worth a check. Lunar vans are lighter so these might be suitable for you. Good luck.
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29/10/2006 at 4:05pm
Location: Zoetermeer Holland Outfit: Chateau 430 Nice
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I suppose you mean outside width if you are mentioning 2.08? Which implies that apparently 210cms is your maximum outside width.
Most basic caravans measure 220 outside width. The more larger and luxurious they become, the wider.
It depends very much on what you are looking for.
The Eriba touring range e.g. is 2000cms wide, including two or three caravans in the Troll range. But these are popup caravans (Only the top-part, for headroom). These caravans are rather light and are very good on the road. As slightly lower they cost less fuel.
I have seen them camping even with frost outside and those people said the were warm and cosy, inspite of the narrow ban of canvas in the popup-part.
Their biggest advantages are that they are not prone to damp due to their construction and aluminium framework coach-construction (not wood like most caravans), plus they are rather lightweight, easily pass rather low bridges etc, and fit behind a smaller car. They also are good on bendy roads due to their narrow size.
But they are not that cheap.
There is another French popup type (took over Rapido), but I forgot the name for the moment. These are narrow too.
Caravelair also has narrower caravans, all of their basix range Antares, plus the first two (up to 4 mtrs inside length) of the 'Ambiance range'.
I think that also the Kip Compact range (Dutch caravan) is rather narrow. E.g the Kip Compact 27EK is only 182 cms wide! The the Compact range has types with and without popup roof. Kip has a reputation of being a very sturdy van of very good quality.
They also have the Kip Vision range. The have an inside length of 417 cms. Their outside width is 210 cms.
Als popup-roof, over 200 cms of standing heigth.
Both Kip Compact and Kip Vision are lightweight caravans.
But Kip is rather expensive, just like Eriba. it does show in quality, incl lifespan.
Caravelair is cheaper, but OK.
So there are some alternatives, either in the compact type of caravans, really meant for travelling around a lot (Eriba and Kip) or the basic french type of vans (Caravelair), a bit more space inside.
Post last edited on 29/10/2006 16:16:54
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22/5/2007 at 9:32pm
Location: Cardiff Outfit: Lunar Ariva GT
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Just to let you know how this came to a conclusion. We did come across some of the overseas suggestions, we were particularly keen on the Caravelair, but could only get it new at £12k plus, so was out of our league. We set EBay to inform us when particular brands came up, which was helpful.
We found the spec of all brands available in the back of a regular caravan magazine that we read second or third hand and the Lunar Ariva got a mention. The whole spec is superb for those of us who don't need or can't accommodate a big caravan.
As soon as I stopped looking at the overseas manufactureres and started looking at the Lunar on the internet we found a cracking caravan and are thrilled to bits with our purchase. We will probably never change from the Lunar Ariva model (unless they decide to 'go large' like everyone else!).
Thanks for all the advice, we have passed it all on too.
Many thanks, Jane.
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