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Subject Topic: Avondale - a rant!
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02/2/2007 at 5:35pm
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About 1998, I bought a new Monza 5-berth.  Compared to my new 460/2-berth of similar body size, with all the extras for comfort, the Monza was quite lightweight.

It would be difficult to get weights down, and keep the luxurious specifications, without a radical change to lghter materials.  These would have to retain at least the strength of existing materials, or complaints regarding durability would soar.

Radically new materials would also cause significant price increases, which would drive customers towards vans with the present type of construction.  So the first van manufacturer to go down the "new materials" road will have to be brave.

It may be possible to lighten vans by going over to carbon-fibre chassis.  There are two obvious downsides to this:

(1) Cost, involving extensive and expensive retooling.

(2) The lighter chassis would raise the centre of gravity of the van.  This would reduce its stability in crosswinds, or when overtaken by a large vehicle.

In the longer term, I believe that the availability and performance of economical tow cars, within the reach of the average caravan owner, will dictate many of the decisions for future caravan design.  A further dilemma for van manufacturers is the possibility that heavier secondhand vans may not be suitable for towing with the lighter vehicles which will be forced onto us in the quest to reduce greenhouse gases.  A quest which I think most of us accept as unavoidable.

Because, if these secondhand vans won't sell, then dealers will not accept them in part ex.  And the van makers are not going to risk expense in producing vans that cannot be sold, due to the vans we have now becoming non-viable in the marketplace. 

The next ten years will be very interesting.

Bertie.



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03/2/2007 at 4:03pm
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Karen 13 I thought you were having a pop at 4x4's - I do get so fed up with do-gooders who dont know what they are talking about and joining the politically correct brigade which I feel is ruining our great country. Anyway I digress, AVONDALE A RANT well I may come home with a new van from the NEC will it be Avondale or Bailey???? I just dont know.


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22/2/2007 at 6:24am
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Dear all.
Just to update you on my Avondale Rialto. Firstly I have had the cracks repaired to the front and back panels.This was done by welding, filling and painting.I must say that I was less than impressed with the job.
The good news is I have just part exchanged it for a new Hymer Nova at the NEC show.
The bad news is that the trade in value was affected by the fact that it was an Avondale. The Hymer company knew all about the cracked panels and the trade in price reflected this. As a side issue,I came across my Avondale dealer selling Bailey caravans.During the discussion he told me that his company had terminated its contract with Avondale and no longer sells them.He went on to say that they had so many problems with Avondale vans, that it was ruining their reputation. They even had brand new vans still being produced with cracks to the panels.
I feel sad that in this day and age,that we have to put up with this level of workmanship.
I will keep you posted on the Hymer.many thanks to all who gave me advice.
Regards

John


22/2/2007 at 10:39am
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Of course a Bailey dealer will run down Avondale, he would hardly recommend them!



22/2/2007 at 5:05pm
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Vernon.

I think the fact that a large dealer drops Avondale, is far more significant than just talk or recommendation.

Thanks

John



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