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24/1/2007 at 12:29am
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Im loking at installing an external power point on my van, and i have 2 options.

1, install a standard (IP rated) 13A socket on the outside.

or, 2 install a 16A socket, and use my oldish tent EHU unit plugged into it.

Im thinking of the 2nd option, as a 16A socket thats IP44 is alot cheaper than an equivilent IP rated 13A socket. plus if i need to I can use a 16-13A (IP66?? rated) adaptor to use if i dont have the awning on for lighting, as most easily, and reasonably priced IPrated sockets are quite expensive at the moment, whereas most 16A sockets are IP44 rated as standard

hope this makes sense, it is 12:30



24/1/2007 at 1:34am
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You lost me well it is 1.38am  , what's IP rated ? i know i'm thick doh .

You could always buy a mains / 12volt socket box from a caravan shop for about £13 .
I bought a empty socket box off ebay for £4 and a single extension socket £3 ( fitted it into the box ) then cut a hole in the caravan , fitted the box and wired it up to the fused mains pannel .

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24/1/2007 at 8:06am
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Don't know about the type of socket.  However regarding siting of it, our Abbey Vogue 415 has an external socket fitted in the door side wet locker which is quite a good idea as you then have a supply into the awning without having to trail leads.

 

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24/1/2007 at 8:56am
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I would go for this unit with mains and 12V in one box.

An easy way is to use a supply cord with a 13 amp plug on one end that can be connected via  double adaptor from an existing 13 amp  socket (such as to the fridge)

This gives the added protection of the fuse in the plug and avoids cutting into the van wiring

The 12V is usefull for tyre pumps etc

Mains / 12 Volt Flush Outlet
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Mains / 12 Volt Flush Outlet
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A flush fitting rubber 13 amp socket in a white plastic splash proof housing for external flush mounting, plus 12 volt "cigarette lighter" style outlet

Recess size: 134mm x 70mm. Depth 64mm
External (flap) size: 158mm x 102mm. Depth 11mm

Socket rating: 13 amps at 240 volts AC

Conforms to BS1363/A.


 



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24/1/2007 at 5:18pm
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that looks pretty good actually, and a reasonable price too,

 I cant mount anything in a wet locker, or anyother type of locker for that matter, cos it dont have one!!

IP rating is experssed as IP, plus 2, or 3 numbers, it expresses how water, dust, or mechanically stable it is, all 16A sockets, the blue ones are at least IP44 rated, meaning it is capable of withstanding dust and water spray.

for a more list of the numbering see here http://www.keithpayneproducts.com/ip-rating.htm



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24/1/2007 at 6:09pm
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That's interesting

The type of sockets (as above) fitted to the Bailey and the box I added have a seperate lidded socket inside the main cover.

I much prefer the other type where you can have the socket either stuck in with a sticky pad or so the you can pull it out on a short extension lead

Much more convenient to use and easier to wire up.

I usually make a cardboard template and after drilling a hole at each corner cut it out with a pad saw.

Tape mastic makes a good seal



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24/1/2007 at 10:11pm
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Hi . You can get a cheap IP 54 rated 13 a socket for about £6 . The thing is that the more expensive ones(MK) will remain the same ip rating when a plug top is inserted.As you wont have anything plugged in when on the move this shouldnt matter ,just make sure the cover is closed and it should be fine.Just depends where you site the socket .I would put it under the van at the side somewhere?Only thing i would say with a 16 a commando type socket would be that you would need an adaptor to convert to 13a so it could involve a bit messing about.


28/9/2009 at 4:06pm
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Just want to bounce this up again. 

The unit above looks really good.  Do they still produce them?  If so where can we purchase one from?

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28/9/2009 at 8:24pm
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The socket that JohnG has shown in his reply is from Towsure, direct link to the item here

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28/9/2009 at 8:35pm
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I recently fitted an external power socket similar to the one pictured above only that the socket under the outer flap is square and has it`s own spring loaded flap. Cant remember the price I paid off ebay, think it was about £11/12 including postage


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28/9/2009 at 9:12pm
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I can't help with your query however its amazing how useful those external power points are. We have had them on 3 out of our 5 vans we have had and use them a lot., Wouldn't be without it

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28/9/2009 at 9:40pm
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Towsure still sell them. 17

They retail at £14.95. 

We will be picking one up and getting someone qualified to fit it. 

External power points should be fitted to every van.

Thanks all of you



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28/9/2009 at 10:32pm
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The socket I posted about earlier was supplied by caravan supplies international, it is on ebay for £11.00+£2.30p+p item no 400074389343


28/9/2009 at 11:00pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Vectratot on 28/9/2009
The socket I posted about earlier was supplied by caravan supplies international, it is on ebay for £11.00+£2.30p+p item no 400074389343
I looks a good product, however, the Towsure one also has a 12v socket as well as the 3 pin 240 one.  The cool box will therefore continue to live in the awning.

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28/9/2009 at 11:03pm
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I found that the spring loaded inner socket type were not as convenient to use as the one in the link I gave which has a trailing lead that can be made to pull out or fixed with a sticky pad

Just my preference --and easier to wire up

 

My last one was got for me by my local dealer

 

Looking back I seem to have said this before

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29/9/2009 at 8:21am
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i just bought a short extension lead removed plug and installed in my battery box where the mains plug's in then run a eatension under the van it saved having to cut holes in a new van hope this helps Andy



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