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13/2/2007 at 12:26am
Location: West Yorkshire Outfit: Swift Moselle 3B & Honda CR-V 2.2i
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Hi mate, we have the very same dilemma with our Lunar Quasar 615, with plated mtplm 1600Kgs, which was part of the options pack would you believe, the standard van has a 1500kg mtplm, we too tow with a diesel CR-V, so you see the problem.
Technically, I cannot tow this 1600Kg van with the CR-V's max towing weight of 1500Kg, however, had I not opted for the options pack I would have been fine with the lesser 1500Kg mtplm.
Solution for us, in lieu of any evidenced advice that this is illegal, but I'm sure it will come if it exists, is to load the van as a 1500Kg. Our previous van had a mtplm of 1340kg and we haven't bought anymore kit since so I'm working on the assumption that we are well under the 1500Kg anyway.
Unless you weigh the van when fully loaded how do you ever know what weight you are towing, apart from doing the sensible sanity check of best guessing the weight of individual items and adding it up.
Look forward to the responses on this one.
Mick
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14/2/2007 at 12:48pm
Location: South Gloucestershire Outfit: Sterling Excel 550 - Honda CR-V Mk4
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Unless you weigh the van when fully loaded how do you ever know what weight you are towing, apart from doing the sensible sanity check of best guessing the weight of individual items and adding it up.
Look forward to the responses on this one.
Mick
Mick
We opted to buy a Reich Caravan Weight Control. Its a small digital device that you place under each wheel of the van (and/or car) and pull/drive over it slowly. It weighs the vehicle separately at each wheel, and jockey wheel and adds them together for you.
It's not cheap - at £120, but no more guesswork! We also know from this whether the weight is even from side to side and whether we've got the noseweight right.
We were pleasantly surprised that our loaded van is not as heavy as we feared and well within its MTPLM.
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16/2/2007 at 7:19pm
Location: Cornwall Outfit: Hobby 650 Ec low profile motorhome
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Hi ayem,
Legally speaking, and using Yorkshire legal parlance "Tha's b**ggered!!)
However, (there's always a however) I note that you have a Lunar.
When we bought a new Lunar in November 2005 I towed it all the way from Humberside to Cornwall and THEN noticed that the plate said something totally at odds with what it should. From memory the MIRO was out by about 100kgs and the MTPLM was out by 65kgs. This was important because at the time I had a Citroen C5 Estate with a kerb weight UNDER that of the displayed MTPLM on the van.
Lunar will allow you to increase the Max weight of the Lexon by 100kgs if YOU want.
In my circs I did not want. I contacted the selling dealer and a new plate was ordered and obtained from Preston.
Your circumstances although somewhat different are very similar. It matters not a jot what it says on the plate if the figures are LESS than the design loads built into the chassis by the manufacters.
I have in my possession a few caravan mags from France. The continental manufactures give far less of a payload on their small and midsize vans to allow many more vehicles to tow them. The same model van when imported into this country suddenly gets a higher payload.
Your solution would be to contact the dealer where you purchased the caravan. Explain to them the position and ask them to get a new plate that shows the MTPLM at less than the kerb weight of your towing vehicle.
Providing that you do not exceed this weight then you have committed no offence.
Keep the original plate and on disposing of the van, (or getting a heavier car) replace the plate.
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