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13/2/2007 at 3:44pm
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anybody got any comments on buying direct from germany ?


13/2/2007 at 3:45pm
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13/2/2007 at 4:46pm
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We looked into this and investigated 2 import firms available. Seemed OK, a lot cheaper but we ran into the usual warranty problems. The van we were interested in ended up being heavier than we had originally been told, so abandoned the idea because of that.



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13/2/2007 at 4:56pm
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Hi one of the problems you will have will be that the van will not meet the uk spec on the gas side as they have to be modified on the pdi also the mains sockets will be wrong as there is only one importer of these vans you will have problems with wty issues the importer is Lowdham leisure in nottingham but they have other sites in hudderfield and Reading but wont do wty on imported vans

hopes this helps

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We will definitely be looking to buy our next Hymer from Germany. The main Hymer dealers in Germany - here is one http://www.palmo.org/ are used to dealing with British and the UK requirements.

The price savings are huge. If you want more info, then go into the Hymer site and request a full caravan pack - but in German. You will also be able to see all the German Hymer dealers listed there.

A for Lowdhams not doing wty work on German purchased Hymers, I have news for you, they have to do this work. You simply need to contact Hymer Germany if you have a problem, and they will authorise it. The reason for any problems is that they can't handle the routine servicing etc for the number of vans that they actually sell.

In any event, you will be buying a Hymer, and the one we have hasn't had any problems, nor have the other three that we know.



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13/2/2007 at 7:21pm
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A for Lowdhams not doing wty work on German purchased Hymers, I have news for you, they have to do this work.

How do they have to? My understanding is that they refuse point blank to work on vans imported from Germany as do some other dealers. I can't see that they are under any obligation to service such vans. Has it changed recently? Someone I know has a Hobby and he goes back to Germany with it every two years for the service to the dealer he purchsed it from and makes it a short holiday.

David

 



13/2/2007 at 7:27pm
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Hi David you are quite right  i worked for lowdhams and they would not do wty on imported vans


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All this was sorted at the same time as the issue for cars. It also used to be the case that if you bought a car in Europe and imported it, then the dealer - Landrover, BMW or whoever wouldn't service it, and the warranty wasn't valid. This went to the EEC who ruled that the warranty was valid in the UK and work had to be done. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter to the dealer as they get paid for warranty work by the manufacturer. The real issue is that the dealer wants to sell a new car/caravan, and feels pretty p***ed off that you have eroded his margins by buying abroad.



13/2/2007 at 7:39pm
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Gary and Lesley  -  You might want to speak to Sandy at Jandi Caravans, his address is;

 

St Thomas Units,

Blackburn Road,

Addiewell,

WEST CALDER

EH55 8NF

Their telephone number is 01506 763000 or you can e-mail them at jandi.caravansatvirgin.net.

 

I know they are at the other end of the country from you and Sandi deals mainly with Eriba vans, part of the Hymer group.  But he does service and repair Hymers and is in close contact with the company in Germany.  At least he can give you some advice, tell you about the different national regulations and point you in the right direction. 

Be warned though Sandy loves a 'guid blether' so make sure you have a drink and a cumfy chair close by, LOL

 

Carr

 



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13/2/2007 at 8:04pm
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The possible problem as I see it is does the privately imported van meet NCC/UK requirement?

Has it got fire retardant foam?, is the mains electrical circuits to UK standard?, has it got full earth bonding for instance? Might there be some issues with the gas setup? Are there other less important but nevertheless required standards to be met before a UK dealer could or would to get involved. After all if he sees an unsafe situation he has to do something about it, it's not an option for him to ignore it!!



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13/2/2007 at 9:09pm
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You also need to check that the model you want is made to comply to the UK width limit of 2.3 metres. For example when I purchased our 545 in 2002 the continental 545 was 2.4 metres wide not the 2.3 of the UK spec version. Being illegal for a UK resident to tow on the road it could not have viable insurance whilst being towed in the UK.


13/2/2007 at 9:53pm
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Gary and Lesley   By all means listen to the sceptics but seek advice.  Hymer vans tour in this country all the time and I’ve yet to hear of the ‘caravan police’ taking anyone to task about their socket outlets, their foam filled furniture or their gas setup.

Caratechs says the mains sockets will be wrong.  OK yes they might be German Schuko sockets but there is no reason why you can’t have Schuko plugs fitted to your electrical items used in the van.  You can of course swap them for German made three pin plugs which can be obtained from Eriba UK or from Hymer themselves.

Gary of arc systems says a privately imported van might not meet NCC/UK requirements?  It might not be fitted with fire retardant foam.  So long as you don’t misrepresent the fact that it’s a continental import when you sell it on you won’t be breaking any law.  In other words it is perfectly legal to tow a continental import in this country – as many of our continental visitors have found.

As for gas – I think the only difference is that the German vans have less floor level ventilation.  It’s to do with air volume.  A little research and It can be easily sorted.

The nub of the issue is  that since you are an EU citizen you can source your van from anywhere in the EU.  Under current legislation franchisees in the UK are obliged to service such vans according to the manufacturer’s specification.  However they are also obliged to notify you of any inconsistency with UK caravan standards but you are not compelled to do anything about it.

The only area you might have a problem with is insurance – but there again you can shop around.

Many of us prefer continental caravans because they often have a better build quality, don't come fitted with unnecessary gadgets and are cheaper to buy if you're prepared to make the effort to go look.  Don't let the UK caravan industry brainwash you into thinking they've got the UK market to themselves! 

 

Carr  



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13/2/2007 at 10:07pm
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Hi Carr you are quite right in what you say but they asked for coments all we are doing is replying everybody can make up their own minds but pointing out things must help


13/2/2007 at 10:08pm
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Whilst it is legal for our continental visitors to tow thier 2.4 and 2.5 metre wide caravans in the UK using normal cars, it is not legal for a UK resident to tow anything over 2.3 metres wide with conventional cars. For us to tow our vehicle must be over 3.5 tonnes gross weight and we must hold the associated licence for a vehicle of that type.


13/2/2007 at 10:22pm
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Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 13/2/2007
Whilst it is legal for our continental visitors to tow thier 2.4 and 2.5 metre wide caravans in the UK using normal cars, it is not legal for a UK resident to tow anything over 2.3 metres wide with conventional cars. For us to tow our vehicle must be over 3.5 tonnes gross weight and we must hold the associated licence for a vehicle of that type.
Without a doubt.

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20/2/2007 at 5:29pm
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thanks for all of the comments,we collect our new hymer nova 530 le from cologne on monday 12/3.we are skiing in austria first then driving to cologne to collect caravan.yes there is a risk but we are prepared to take the risk.we have paid £9,500 .in uk would be £17000(you get the tax back as you are exporting from germany)there were a few small complications but they were easily overcome.....any advice please call me on 01304 365554....gary



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