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i agree with george T, a motorway test and additional test for towing anything over 750Kg gets my vote.  When I took my HGV test in 83, it wasn't just being able to drive it was having the right attitude to other road users.  A lot of these B class drivers driving the old HGV3 class vehicles just don't have any respect for the amount of wieght they are carrying and what damage they could do, due to inconsiderate driving, like driving in the third lane of the motorway.

John

Have to agree with George on this one driving on the autobahns in Germany and Belguim is a lot easier than UK Motorways spent 5 years in Germany then had to tackle a british motorway

Irene 

George

I have driven through Belguim on many ocassions. I accept what you say about lane disciplain but this is true of Germany and France. I suppose i have driven in excess of 25000 miles in Europe I have generally found the Belguims the ones that pull in front of you too quickly and there have been several other instances that I could recall. Having said that the Belguims I have actually met and chatted with have been delightful. Not sure I would go as far as you do about UK drivers but I know what you mean. They hate the idea of letting a caravan join any road ahead of them!!!

David

Quote: Originally posted by GeorgeTelford on 27/10/2004

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Hi Irene

Its the Lane discipline that makes it an absolute pleasure, the trouble is that over here there are no Motorway lessons. When your out and about have a look at the driving instructor cars here in Telford as i was behind one last week that had "Motorway lessons" in big letters on the back of it

And building motorways with more lanes not going to help if the British cant cope with three lanes having four is not going to help.

Most of the mains over there are 2 lane its the lane discipline that keeps everything flowing smoothly. Yep in Germany the police will pull you over if you sit in the outside lane when you are able to pull back in. Mind you we have the Highway Code they have Laws of the road, As we were living there,in 1990, we had to sit a written theory test to enable us to drive long term on their roads due to the laws.

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That's the problem George. When people say they want to learn to drive, that isn't what they mean.

To be truthful what they should say is - I want to pass the test & get a full licence in as few lessons as possible as cheaply as I can. Or I only want to pay for my child to have 10 lessons, that will be enough regardless of what the Driving Standards Agency advise.

So there's no chance of the majority paying any more for motorway lessons after they have passed.

  I have had the wrong impression for the last 39years I always thought that BMW drivers owned the road and were very kind to let us use it providing we gave them priority when they were on the road.

les

Quote: Originally posted by les + june on 28/10/2004

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  I have had the wrong impression for the last 39years I always thought that BMW drivers owned the road and were very kind to let us use it providing we gave them priority when they were on the road.

les

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  Much as I hate to admit it I know a BMW owner and SHE is under the same impression as me about them owning the road.

les